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George Street Improvements

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  1. paulmilne
    Member

    I'd be happy for a ban on beer wagons on George Street if that helps?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @paulmilne

    @gembo has made it all good. I'm fine. Honestly.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. unhurt
    Member

    Hanky? Quiet moment alone?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Cycle lane somewhere?

    https://twitter.com/radioarlene/status/1064180009445875712

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. HankChief
    Member

    We cycled along George Street last night and got a range of responses from the yellow jacket brigade stationed at the end of each block.

    Some were very helpful and moved cones out of our way, others told us it was closed and we should cycle along the pavement. We declined this suggestion and just about managed to find a satisfactory route between all the work going on.

    (Having travelled from Murrayfield to Haymarket along with the walking masses of rugby supporters, it will go down as a non typical trip into town.)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. wingpig
    Member

    IMG_20181123_085242077 by wingpig, on Flickr

    IMG_20181123_085154733 by wingpig, on Flickr

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    How'd that lorry get there without moving of concrete bollards and anti-ISIS tape? A fair quota of pavement driving I imagine. Which shows what a farce the whole thing is...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. chrisfl
    Member

    I *think* that they just open up the anti-isis tape for deliveries in the morning....

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. PS
    Member

    A couple of delivery wagons in that section in front of Browns/Gusto/GBK this morning, both parked with two wheels on the pavement. So it seems they either block the cycle lane or they impede the pedestrian and damage the pavement... Top planning.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

  12. Frenchy
    Member

    George Street New Town Consultation

    There will be a drop in event on Thursday 17 January from 10am – 7 pm in St Andrew’s St George’s West Church, 13- 17 George Street.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin


    Join us this Sunday for the launch of our 2020 Bus Strategy on George Street.
    It will be your first chance to learn about the strategy and see one of our brand new Alexander Dennis Enviro400XLB buses.

    https://twitter.com/on_lothianbuses/status/1090155158967894022

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. neddie
    Member

    A reminder of why we need to physically prevent motor vehicles from accessing city centres:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-47326895

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. Stickman
    Member

    Edinburgh local politics at its worst following this article.

    Adam, not unreasonably, said (paraphrasing) “good news to get this funding, but some usual anonymous trolls just complained about potholes/bins; yes there are issues with potholes/bins but can’t we celebrate this good news”

    At which point every opposition councillor seems to have responded “he’s calling everyone trolls!”

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    I decided not to read the comments

    The article was thanking staff for their good work in getting the funding in face of stiff competition.

    £22.8million is a big grant.

    Potholes are bad, but obviously if the $22,8 million caused drivers to cycle then potholes would reduce

    Spending money on fixing potholes but without shifting drivers on to bikes just makes more potholes

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. Morningsider
    Member

    While it's nice to have £22m to beautify George Street, I don't think it is a good way to encourage active travel. A mile of high quality segregated cycle lane costs roughly £1.2m. So for the cost of the George Street project you could get 18 miles of high quality segregated cycle lane. Enough for routes along major roads from the south (via Morningside of course), West (Slateford, Dalry), north (Ferry Road?) and East (London Road?).

    It's no good having a nice segregated route on George Street if most people can't safely get to it. South Edinburgh in particular is still a cycle infrastructure desert.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. CycleAlex
    Member

    In fairness there will be segregated connections out to Roseburn and Foot of the Walk via CCWEL & down to Canal/Bruntsfield/Innocent via M2GS & M2C

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. Klaxon
    Member

    Risk of this being Edinburgh’s Exhibition Road

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    Cycle access still open just now but entry tricky to find and some conflict with peds at the moment

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    South Edinburgh in particular is still a cycle infrastructure desert.

    To the point that one wonders why.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    “one wonders why”

    Not City Centre or full of legacy rail lines.

    Would have helped if QBiC had actually been any good.

    Needs serious look at all the opportunities - particularly on-road segregated lanes in various places plus improvements to Braid and Burdiehouse burns’ routes.

    Who wants to draw up suggestions and campaign??

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Who wants to draw up suggestions and campaign?

    @Cyclesouthedin is on the case, but could use more peoplepower.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18828

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. Morningsider
    Member

    CycleAlex - eventually, yes. However, I don't consider the canal towpath to be cycle infrastructure. The fact that people choose to cycle along a five foot wide path right next to a body of water tells you all you need to know about the possible alternatives.

    Even once the proposed new segregated routes are open (the middle of the next decade) there will be no safe cycling routes south of the Meadows. Without these safe feeder routes, cycling will never reach its full potential in the city.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    “@Cyclesouthedin is on the case, but could use more peoplepower.”

    Yes, but that thread not updated for 11 months, so?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I reckon drawing up plans is a waste of time. The problem is that nobody gives a flying fox about active travel, be that walking or bicycling.

    The spread of 'executive' housing in Midlothian may have done for south Edinburgh in the medium term.

    Only high-level campaigning seems likely to me to have any tangible effect.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    “I reckon drawing up plans is a waste of time.”

    Well, generally I share your scepticism, but the extent to which South Ed is devoid and the potential will help (a bit) with -

    “Only high-level campaigning seems likely to me to have any tangible effect.”

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    This published design includes increased width of pavements, a dedicated cycle lane and two lanes of traffic. It does not facilitate a fully pedestrian street and we do not see this as a priority moving forward. The design of the street has been purposely completed to allow more active travel to and along George Street, but also catering for the need for servicing the businesses and for those who do want the ability to be dropped off by car on the street. There is little support from the business community for a fully pedestrianised George Street.

    http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/statement-regarding-george-street-design/

    Posted 4 years ago #

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