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Canal-Meadows (STILL NOT finally!)

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  1. HankChief
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  2. Morningsider
    Member

    Well - it took 10 years from the Scottish Government announcement of the location and design type to the opening of the Queensferry Crossing*. What do you reckon - quicker than Meadows-Canal?

    I'm intrigued as to what design issues could be taking so long. If its anything less than a trebuchet that fires bikes either into Lochrin Basin or at a repurposed festival Big Top in the Meadows than I'm going to be disappointed.

    * Announced, Opening

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Leamington lift bridge closed again to cyclists and peds

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. jdanielp
    Member

    @gembo as I found out to my irritation on the way home in the wet. This caused me to be rained on for at least an extra minute.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    @jdanielp, yes, as with you I persevered without the waterproofs.

    Lift bridge apparently closed to the wind

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    “Lift bridge apparently closed to the wind”

    Really??

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19078&page=2#post-291583

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    https://www.capitaltheatres.com/about/stories/initial-designs-unveiled-for-kings-theatre-redevelopment

    Initial designs for King's Theatre redevelopment have been published. They include an artist's impression appearing to show Tarvit St as a shared pedestrian/cyclist space.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    To start sept 2021

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    To start sept 2021

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Frenchy

    The two red streaks in the lower right of the illustration are doing a lot of work.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. Frenchy
    Member

    I can't get past the giant fish tank they've put on the roof.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. piosad
    Member

    They also appear to omit the segregated path up to Tarvit Street. What’s the betting on the Meadows-Canal path being built just in time for the theatre works to start and therefore the NCN being immediately closed / diverted back again through Valleyfield Street?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    So, significant (about time too) maintenance and missed opportunity to add cycle route(?)

    ThisIsEdinburgh.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. CycleAlex
    Member

    Does anyone know if there's been an update on this? Noticed the project page has died recently.

    I remember reading about this in 2017 and getting all excited. Oh how naive I was back then!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. Frenchy
    Member

    I have been told there's another consultation starting in a few weeks.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

    Isn't that the 3rd consultation?

    B'jesus

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    The route must infringe on illegal parking or cause motorists some mild discomfort hence the need to consult it into the long grass. Meanwhile the cooncil has had a big grant that will need to go back as tap all infrastructure has been built in the last two years.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. Morningsider
    Member

    Would that be the (ahem) initial consultation, or the formal TRO consultation?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    Neither??!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    I was too feart to ask...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. Frenchy
    Member

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/meadows-to-canal-cycling-and-walking-improvements/

    It is, indeed, an "(ahem), initial" consultation.

    Drop ins at Akva 11am-7pm on 29th and 30th April.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. neddie
    Member

    Overall the scheme looks good. I particularly like the liberal use of continuous footway.

    Not so good:
    - Substandard 2.5m bidirectional cycleway widths again.

    Appalling:
    - "Footway" loading bays on Home St. and Leven St.

    Way to legitimise pavement parking...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. neddie
    Member

    I recommend opening the FAQs. At number 1, this gem:

    Q1 Why is this taking so long?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. Stickman
    Member

    From the FAQs: they aim to be onsite in 2020. What’s that, 7 years since the first consultation?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    “7 years since the first consultation?”

    Must have been the second go at Barclay Bruntsfield when I gave going to such CEC events.

    Wasn’t good for my health...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. davidsonsdave
    Member

    I agree with neddie's points, in particular that it would be an absolutely apalling decision to include footway loading bays and design-in a situation where HGV's would be expected to manouver onto a pavement. I have highlighted the fact that there is a Primary School within 200m and that this would be incredibly irresponsible. I have contacted the School and Parent Council so that they are aware of the consultation and that the footway loading bays might be a concern for them.

    In addition to the narrow bidirectional cycle lanes which will be a problem for cargo bikes and trailers, I also think that they are designing-in conflict at both Toucan crossings as bikes are going to have to diagonally cross the pedestrian flow. Even if you only plan for the current number of bikes/pedestrians using this route, there is going to be a problem. I'm not quite sure what the solution is but I would imagine 10 minutes on google looking at how it is done in the Netherlands would fix the problem.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. jonty
    Member

    Anyone understand why there's a tiny bit of two-way proposed on Drumdryan street?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. neddie
    Member

    a tiny bit of two-way proposed on Drumdryan street

    Possibly so that the all-important-motorised shop owners and customers can reach the "shared" parking bays without going round the entire one-way.

    It does seem like a recipe for "unexpected 3-point turns" in front of children on bikes, though...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. jonty
    Member

    Ah. Yes, seems like an odd tradeoff.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. mgj
    Member

    Once again, a design that assumes CEC has any interest in parking enforcement. Reality will involve a road narrowed with pavement parking and actually less space for cyclists not going on the new cycle route. I bet cyclists going down Lothian Road get 'why arent you in the cycle lane' comments

    Posted 3 years ago #

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