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So....How law abiding are you on a bike?

(17 posts)
  • Started 9 years ago by stiltskin
  • Latest reply from chdot
  • poll: How law abiding are you?
    I would die of dehydration at a stuck red light in the desert : (7 votes)
    30 %
    More so than when in a car : (8 votes)
    35 %
    Less so than when in a car : (7 votes)
    30 %
    I am, of course, a scofflaw cyclist. Rules are for fools! : (1 votes)
    4 %

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  1. stiltskin
    Member

    Prompted by following a guy on a road bike down to Canonmills. With no other traffic at the junction he stopped at the first white line at the traffic lights. Yours truly went past him into the ASL. I suspect he was following the rules to the letter*, whereas I was going by the spirit of them. So do you try to follow every rule, no matter how ill-advised?

    *(Although I noticed he had no pedal reflectors:-0)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Ed1
    Member

    Not sure about the methodology, some of the questions are somewhat pejorative which may bias the results.

    A 1 to 4 may have been better.

    "I am, of course, a scofflaw cyclist. Rules are for fools! : (0 votes) "

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. Morningsider
    Member

    Don't mean to criticise - but people who don't have, or drive, a car can't answer this survey.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Ed1
    Member

    Well to be silly, it does not say driving a car, so could be a passenger in a car drinking a beer, or listening to music at excessive volume or however else someone can break the law in a car. Just being silly clearly the intended meaning when driving a car.

    Some may assume that law abiding is sensible and not law abiding is wreckless is this always the case I wonder, on a bike it may be safer, more sensible or help the traffic flow better by breaking the law at times.

    It may be better to use pedestrian crossing for some junctions, better for the cyclist and the other road users etc (possibility not pavement users )

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I do mean to criticise. Where is the button for 'I am a scoffcake cyclist'?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. stiltskin
    Member

    I am not responsible for the buttons on this website. I suggest any complaints should be directed to admin.
    Thank you for reading this thread

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Maybe the roadie guy was on his first ride in a while? I sometimes drive my automobile into green lanes on the basis that I'm on the bike as usual. I'd probably drive it up the canal if the path was wider.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. Ed1
    Member

    Although I noticed he had no pedal reflectors?" peddle reflectors a legal requirement? One of my snapped of will need to get a new one.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. fimm
    Member

    I've very strict about sticking to speed limits in a car. However see the thread about attempting to set off speed detectors on a bike. (Yes, I know the speed limit doesn't apply to bikes, but there's a sprit of the law thing there...) (I do also have an exception to my speeding strictness when I'm driving.)

    On a bike, I don't usually run reds because I don't see the benifit in doing so. I'm sometimes tempted to go through a deserted pedestrian crossing but don't.

    However, I do routinely cycle the wrong way up a one way street.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

    Where is the desert?

    "If the traffic lights are not working, treat the situation as you would an unmarked junction and proceed with great care."

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    "Where is the desert?"

    It's one of the McMurdo Dry Valleys. You'd die of cold long before thirst got you. Tut.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    I don't drive, mostly as I freak at the behaviour of drivers. I have seen millions of red lights being jumped this week. Also the yellow cross hatched box at the commie pool is infringed at every sequence of the lights.

    I lied on the survey tho. I try to be good,

    Today was a jolly cycle as irish chap from Currie was on his slowest bike so cycled along with me. We saw many infringements from our fellow cyclists. Don't worry they did not exceed the infringements from the drivers. Then I skipped through ped crossing at Amber, whilst shouting. I AM DOING IT NOW?

    Behaved for rest of route.

    Is it now the obligatory time where I blame the students? Bad cycling correlates highly with term time.

    Despite being harry cross, I love students they are learning all sorts at university, how to walk in straight line, how to give a feck, how to be human, how to cycle a bike etc. I live students

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. Kenny
    Member

    I have no shame in admitting I obey all red lights strictly, and wish all cyclists did the same. However, to each their own, and I do understand their rationale for not doing so (I just don't agree with it). I once got dropped on a group ride because the rest of the group ran a red light, and I refused to do so.

    I _think_ I obey all laws in general, but if I am breaking any, it's without knowing about it.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. Uberuce
    Member

    I put the second option because if I was driving a car I'd be unlicensed and uninsured and probably would have stolen it.

    I don't intend to skip reds but am only human and failed to notice the pedestrian ones when there's not been any visible users. Usually I am through it by the time I twig.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    I know of a lad who nicked a car from petrol station where owner had left it open with engine running and keys in ignition. Only down the road did he spot the 95 year old granny in the back seat. Was done with kidnapping.

    Hey it was granny napping if anything

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. Instography
    Member

    I like the little rest you get at red lights. But other things - nipping up to the front of the traffic, making your own ASL, going down roads you're not supposed to, using little bits of pavement, hopping off and walking or crossing, these are the things that really make a bike massively much more flexible than a car, especially out of town where there's far fewer pedestrians and more scope to make your own routes.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "going down roads you're not supposed to, using little bits of pavement"

    See

    Posted 9 years ago #

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