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Posted 2 years ago #
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Pleasantly surprised by the tone of debate on Active Travel Measures - Travelling Safely Update item. Took three rounds of voting but it passed with the Green amendment supported by SNP/Greens. Very glad that the Tory or Lib Dem amendments both failed early. Not sure when the Green amendment to the motion text will be published, but my understanding was that it's similar to the Labour amendment but removes some of the potential negatives.
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I'm hearing quite a few people praising "tone", "dynamic", "debate". I feel it is far, far too late to be satisfied with these. The ONLY measure the Council should be assessed on is "outcome".
Yes, a few hard working Councillors deserve praise for a well-fought rear guard action to preserve most of what we already have. For that they have my sincere thanks.
However, the outcome is that things will be worse tomorrow than they were today, despite significant effort from select councillors, campaigners and officials.
Sorry if this feels a bit downbeat, especially when so many wizard new schemes are apparently just around the corner. I'll just point out that my first post on the Canal-Meadows thread says:
Looks pretty good - my only gripe is that construction isn't due to start until early 2016!
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Are you saying we’ve all succumbed to Spokes “always see the positive” mentality?
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That's a fair point, Morningsider. "It wasn't as bad as it might have been" isn't much of a win but given the amendments presented and the potential politicking going on with LibDem/Tory/Labour "alliances" I was pretty worried. Most schemes live on and it's a good baseline to lobby for improvements.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Well
Being relieved it wasn’t worse is good.
And bad.
If you forget about Climate Crisis, Cost of Living Crisis, Energy Supply Crisis, Liz Truss Crisis it’s fine that we’ve almost got the same of the same.
And the good news seems to be we're keeping the self-publicist.
‘“Interim” is all relative’.
Groundhog Day day.
I’m standing by whatever I said before about some of the new Cllrs being ’promising’.
BUT
REALISTICALLY
The idea that Cllrs are in charge of CEC or that CEC is in charge of itself is fanciful.
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Only 320 pages this month.
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Transport and Environment Committee
10.00am Thursday, 6th October, 2022
Dean of Guild Court Room, City Chambers
This is a public meeting and members of the public are welcome to attend in the Dean of Guild Courtroom or watch the webcast live on the Council’s website.
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@HankChief - where'd you find that link? Nothing up on the normal page yet, and I'd like to see the other papers if they're available.
Posted 2 years ago # -
@Frenchy - Scott Arthur tweeted them
Posted 2 years ago # -
Now up on Council Website
https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/707392
Edit - scratch that - the Edinburgh Reporter's tweet was #FakeNews
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Nope. The Edinburgh Reporter's tweet was correct after all.
https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/707392
You need to click on the 'More' and then 'Resources' to find them...
Posted 2 years ago # -
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"The Edinburgh #CirculationPlan is pretty positive"
We agree, but we do have some comments, as in our deputation here-->
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https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1577744006355816453
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Oh. Okay then. From how our glorious leader was talking this up I was expecting something a bit more substantive than a set of general principles, maybe some indication of where these networks are actually going to be and how extensive they are relative to each other.
Still, taken on its own merits, TBH I'm not feeling the positive vibes others seem to. The wording seems calculated to provide cover for a "network" for bikes that's largely banished onto back roads and "quiet routes"; shoved out of most town centres and shopping streets by pedestrian priority and off main roads by bus priority, on-road back street routes will be all that's left. No commitment to directness for non-car modes, no commitment to modal filtering, and along with an explicit commitment to *preserve* parking plenty of hints that they intend the car network to be extensive.
If this turns into anything more than a handful of signed back routes and painted lanes for bikes and a few bus priority measures thinly papered over the existing car-focused road network largely unchanged, I'll be surprised.
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Sadly I think the last paragraph is a good summary of ‘the plan’.
I was (slightly) expecting some notion of dividing the city into sectors, as is being done elsewhere, and making it difficult to get between them
#ThisIsEdinburgh
In addition of course their is the question of resources and priorities.
There is also ‘a plan’ to spend £1bn on a new tram line.
Posted 2 years ago # -
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Amsterdam is cutting 10,000 parking spaces and replacing them with trees and parking for bikes.
We have so many solutions to make our lives better and address the problems we face. Implement them. #ActOnClimate
#Climate #renewables #GreenNewDeal
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mikehudema/status/1575883903516422144
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Posted 2 years ago #
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That Spokes bloke rambles on a bit, doesn't he?
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#Edinwebcast
Edinburgh Circulation Plan
@CllrCMiller
asks for Spokes approach to compromise when space tightA:
@DaveJFrench
appreciates this, as long as #CycleNetwork continuous & suitable all ages, albeit sometimes not space for ideal widths. Space for cycling & walking should come from carsMhttps://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1577954675520946176
Posted 2 years ago # -
Next week's papers are out
https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=6562&x=1
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Well bit of a false alarm on George Street, despite councillor Arthur's grandiloquent phrasing they're basically just progressing the existing proposal to detailed design and noting that the cost has bumped from 32 to 36 million. Sadly that does mean the key quibble from before is still in there - what exactly is classed as "essential" access outwith the specified late night loading period won't be defined until the detailed design has started, ie after the point where a "cycle street" rather than segregated lanes is already locked in, so if they decide to bow to the cabbie lobby it'll end up as more of a taxi street. Exactly how they plan to "balance" the needs and desires of hotels who want unrestricted access for giant coaches with the cycle street concept is also left unresolved. The junctions at least seem somewhat sensible, with decent priority for E/W cycle movement everywhere except Hanover Street which has to be fully signalised so they can keep pumping cars through it N/S. So *in theory* it remains an *okay* design, but if they cave in to any of half a dozen sources of motorised whinging it'll be trash.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Any news on the Transport Environment Committee today?
Posted 1 year ago # -
The agenda was pretty big. I haven't seen a nice summary yet (the greens sometimes put one out)
Posted 1 year ago # -
Plenty tweets by Spokes
https://mobile.twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1600925444135870464
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Very good deputation from Low Traffic Corstorphine
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https://nitter.cz/SpokesLothian/status/1725134975417118935#m
@CllrScottArthur says will be big issue in N-S route with #activetravel now more crucial than in past
Officer: Special guidance may be developed
Who fancies betting a fiver that the "special guidance" will amount to "ignore existing guidance on AT provision/quality wherever it proves inconvenient"?
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Posted 11 months ago #
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As well as allocating £100m less cash than promised to active travel, the SNP/Green Government is adding uncertainty to how projects are delivered. Details from page 3:
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https://twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1764213094891315529?
Posted 9 months ago # -
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TEC 07.03.24 Agenda Item 7.3
Travelling Safely Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Connection Public Engagement and Next Steps
Response from Spokes South Edinburgh, March 2024
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http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/240307-7.3-SpokesSE-Greenbank-Meadows.pdf
Posted 9 months ago #
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