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"SCOTLAND’S first traffic lights which turn red to halt speeders go into action on the A78 in the Ayrshire village of Fairlie on Friday."
because drivers who ignore speed limits will always obey traffic signals?
Gordon Wilson, for TranServ, for Transport Scotland, said: ... “The safety of motorists and pedestrians is our utmost priority.”
from The Scotsman
its a good idea,but will cyclist also have to stop?
I'm pretty sure more people will be willing to speed than run a red light, so yes, I suspect many (if not most) drivers who ignore speed limits will obey traffic signals.
And, erm, yes, cyclists will also have to stop....
I think they're a great idea. Drivers need to know that's why the light has turned red - as soon as they know they'll be held up longer than they would if they were driving at the speed limit there has to come a certain application of logic.
A Fairlie good idea...
They've had these in Portugal for years and they really work on the long straight back roads that would otherwise be race tracks.
@WC There's always a chance that drivers don't take the red light seriously because it's not a "real" light but a "punishment" light. Like it's always the speed camera's fault you got the fine, not the speeder...
I think it is a great idea. Time will tell if they help or not but I reckon they will.
If it's lights in the middle of nowhere they might risk being ignored but if it just subtly advances a cycle of a junction ahead nobody will be the wiser.
Steveo thanks for mentioning Portugal.
I've now had a quick look at a Portugese report "The video images observation allowed the show that most drivers comply with the system but some of them use strategies to drive threw without activating it. These situations are for instance driving on the shoulder when the speed sensor is on the pavement. Also, the adoption of extremely high speeds has been used as a way to overcome the system.".
I had heard that such systems have been used in other countries but hadn't been able to find proper studies of whether they worked. The US also has some of these systems, and both there and in Portugal the death toll per capita is much higher than here, but I don't know if it would be even worse without this system, or if here would be better with it. Swindon has also been mentioned as going to try this but I haven't found any results yet.
Wow!
From Sir Stephen mr Police Scotland Chief Constable
"Sir Stephen described many incidents as “blameworthy”. He said: “We fall into the language of calling them accidents but they are the minority.”"
"More people are killed on our roads than are murdered each year - to me this is unacceptable and to many of our local communities it is unacceptable"
So good they printed that bit twice.
Police Scotland are always good at talking the talk but I suspect there will be no delivery on it. You just need to look back at campaigns to keep cyclists safe - how many drivers prosecuted for stopping in ASLs a big fat zero!
"More people are killed on our roads than are murdered each year - to me this is unacceptable and to many of our local communities it is unacceptable"
The easy solution is to start reclassifying them as murders and everyone's happy.
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