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"Lit bollards proposed for Meadows to deter attacks"

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  1. chdot
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  2. Dave
    Member

    Interesting to contrast this with the Barnton path.

    For a while my better half commuted out to South Queensferry but wouldn't use the Barnton path after dark for personal safety reasons, instead cycling on the A90. I think I'm right in saying that the lady commuters of her office universally avoided the Barnton path after dark for this reason, which may have contributed to her choice.

    As we probably all know, cycling on the A90 is pretty unpleasant. She gave up cycling there after a while and the other lady commuter I would see doing that run has also packed it in. While necessary, I'm not sure if extra lighting would be sufficient to remove worries of personal safety though?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. sallyhinch
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    Perhaps all the commuters in the office could go together for safety?

    I agree that lighting is necessary (or maybe not even necessary) but not sufficient for social safety. The best thing is passers by, but also long sight lines, and plenty of speedy (so no barriers) on and off options if you don't like the look of what or who's ahead.

    That said, empty, totally dark dark country roads feel totally fine to me (but I know some people get a bit freaked out by them)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Darkerside
    Member

    I note one of the proposed safety measures was to erect signs at the entrances to the park saying "you are now entering a park".

    Genius.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. sallyhinch
    Member

    Perhaps if the signs are easily detachable they can double as ninja weapons?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    Ah now we need more than a single You are now entering a park sign

    We need a series

    Warning Park Ahead, Warning park in 250 yards etc

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I'd put signs up inside mens' homes saying 'You are now entering the outside world'.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Yes, that should be on the door of all houses with men in.

    During my daughters party the other night my wife said Make no comment on person X's dress. I never really saw the dress properly as was hiding in living room mostly with party n rest of downstairs. But the comment worked well.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. Nelly
    Member

    Gembo, was person X a boy or girl?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Person X was a young woman. The boys were all wearing suits!! I do not know what is happening to the youth what is wrong with tartan shirts and Levi 501s? Also whisky and Irn Bru washed down with McEwans export has been surpassed by vodka. Malibu however abides.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. Morningsider
    Member

    gembo - Suits?! Did you check you weren't unwittingly hosting a gathering of Young Conservatives?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Sharp modish suits as worn by the wee boys who Scottish Labour employ to marshal those who go off message or drink.

    Dress code was to be smart. So we had suited vodka and becks drinkers.

    No smokers that I could discern which is another change from parties of my youth.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @gembo

    Malibu and pineapple is a gateway drug to folk music in my experience.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. cc
    Member

    I'd gladly see the Meadows floodlit if it made it safe at night, but somehow I can't see "lit bollards" helping very much. Wouldn't "lit bollards" just help you to see the bollards? Rather than attackers lurking near them? Can anyone explain the idea?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. Morningsider
    Member

    cc - I think "lit bollards" is a poor description of what are really low level street lights.

    I don't think additional lighting in the meadows is a great idea. The paths are already well lit. The problem is the park is quiet at night and there are huge dark areas, away from the paths, were undesirable types can lurk. I can't really see how you can change this - it's a big public park.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. PS
    Member

    @Morningsider I'd agree with that assessment. Ultimately, lighting doesn't make much difference if there's no one around and there is any dark area where dodgy types can lurk and drag victims into.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    @IWRats, yes Malibu mixed with pineapple for that totally tropical taste

    Posted 9 years ago #

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