CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
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It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
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Does this mean anything??
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The TomTom Traffic Index showed that travel in the Capital had taken 36 per cent longer on average than it would have done in free-flowing traffic, and 71 per cent longer in the evening rush hour.
I won't be reading the comments - there seem to be quite a lot already.
"...in free-flowing traffic"
So kind of like the assumptions used when teaching physics (in a vacuum/perfectly elastic collision/frictionless surface etc).
On second thoughts, not like that at all: the physics examples are used to derive models which can then be improved to model the real world."Free flowing" traffic can never exist where there is mass car ownership or junctions and traffic lights
These articles are the equivalent of poking a caged animal with a stick; the commenters always going to react angrily.
I only read the first comment, but it was comedy gold
"Save up, get yourself a car and enjoy the freedom that it brings. Or spend your life sitting around, waiting on buses, constrained to their random timetables, sharing your personal space with the uninvited, unpredictable and unwelcome."
Where to start taking that apart?
Timetables aren't random, they really quite regular. That's kind of the idea.
Live would be very boring without the uninvited and the unpredictable.
There is the chance it was tongue in cheek, but it's so hard to tell on the een website.
" "Free flowing" traffic can never exist where there is mass car ownership or junctions and traffic lights"
Quite.
Even more so in cities where there is a fairly well defined grid pattern with similar levels of N-S and E-W movement.
Of course people 'stuck in traffic' just want a 'green wave' of traffic lights - not even the tram gets that! Well it sort of does but then 'traffic' gets in the way -
For some reason traffic engineers and politicians are still striving for the perfect system, with green lights for all (except perhaps pedestrians) and traffic just flows like oil.
Unfortunately 'people' don't always play nice - follow the Highway Code, allow more roads to be built etc.
"Taxis want George Street back, so they can race up it to beat traffic along Princes or Queen Streets. Taxis want a special crane to lift them out of traffic jams and plonk them on an empty road somewhere. Raaargh David Begg raaargh Lesley Hinds froth froth. Hur hur 'clowncil' hur hurrrr."
The Creators/Participants of Traffic seem to be finally realising that They exist, when highlighted by Their accumulation near a tram; surely it's only a short step from there to the realisation that They easily and frequently accumulate behind other things, including Themselves, even when there are no trams nearby?
perhaps the single occupant vehicle brigade would prefer to be in a queue of 80 other individual SOVs, rather than in one with 80 less and a single bus? That'll really get the traffic flowing. Or just get the traffic.
"The Creators/Participants of Traffic seem to be finally realising that They exist, when highlighted by Their accumulation near a tram; surely it's only a short step from there to the realisation that They easily and frequently accumulate behind other things, including Themselves, even when there are no trams nearby?"
Do you think the average EEN commenter would pass this test?
I do love the claims that buses cause all the congestion, when the 721 Lothian Buses carried 118.4m passengers in 2014. (that's 32m more passengers than ScotRail)
@Morningsider:
Yes, those pesky buses. Nearly as bad as cyclists and pedestrians for causing congestion.
I confess, sometimes when I'm bored I look round my office trying to figure out if anyone is a commenter on the EEN. As yet no one has met the illogical ranting criteria.
I actually read the summary of this press release scientific study.
Interestingly enough, Bristol actually improved its congestion performance. Would this be the same Bristol that recently implemented a 20mph limit?
And from 10 months ago:
"Edinburgh is UK’s third most congested city"
(In that thread crowriver and I had a disagreement about what we thought the report actually meant. I still think I'm right. ;-) )
If only there was a method of moving large numbers of people around a city in a pollution free way that didn't cost a fortune, didn't cause congestion and could even benefit the overall health of a city's residents at the same time....if only.
I promised myself I wouldn't read the comments. Not sure what the "highlight" is. Possibly the response to a comment comparing Lesley Hinds to Hitler: "Hitler brought in Autobahns, so he wasn't all bad".
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