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Access to Canonmills Tesco

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Spokes is currently putting together its report on supermarkets

    Many Spokes/CCE members have submitted details of the parking (and lack of suitable/adequate). 

    Spokes is also interested in "access", so I thought I'd spend a sunny afternoon at Canonmills. 

    Extra sunny!

    Once upon a time there was Willy Low and now the ubiquitous Tesco. 

    This is how Tesco assumes (wants?) its customer to arrive -

    CEC/Sustrans hopes otherwise -

    (Also shows the need for making sure signs are up to date!)

    I didn't see any other cycle route signs pointing to Tesco. Elsewhere there are signs saying "supermarket". For this one, more signs from places like Scotland Street, Eildon Street and Warriston Road (via Boat Green - quickest route according to CycleStreets) actually saying "Tesco" would make sense. 

    It's six years since Rodney Street Tunnel opened. It's become a popular link between the New Town and the NEPN. 

    It should also have been made easier for people to get straight to Tesco, but there's still no acknowledgement of the "desire lines" - at least by Tesco. Presumably CEC and Sustrans has tried to get better access here(?) 

    As part of its various plans and policies, CEC should be making sure that places like this are easy (and obvious) for people to walk and cycle to - not least because the idea is to increase the numbers of walkers and cyclists. 

    At present they are supposed to use this -

    Instead of through the hedge!

    (Note - 'proper' path is by the yellow gantry to the left of photo)

    Clearly Tesco ought to want to do something here (it's presumably their land/hedge?) in conjugation with CEC and Sustrans. 

    The immediate area is within the City Centre and Leith Neighbourhood Partnership, but Eildon Street and Eyre Place are in North NP. 

    Eyre Place is of course where one of Edinburgh's most notorious pieces of 'cycle infrastructure' is STILL waiting to be brought into the 21st Century. 

    That just needs a bit of money, some political will and (perhaps) more officer effort. Surely it's near the top of a 'wish list' somewhere, just 'waiting' for a bit of the "Cycle Budget"(?)

    CEC is currently looking at places where more contra-flow cycle lanes can be introduced. Would be a bit embarrassing in any city trying encourage cycling if they 'needed' "CYCLISTS DISMOUNT" signs...!!

    But even before that's dealt with, there are plenty of other things to be getting on with. 

    Remove this path-narrowing-nonsense -

    Also various possibilities to tidy up the vegetation and plan for path widening on CEC land -

    AND have some serious discussions about making improvements with land (presumably) owned by Tesco. 

    MORE photos 

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    The original bike sheds, one of the first covered racks at Tesco canonmills has had another rack put outside and the curious red wheel benders that no one uses. These factoids plus your photojournalism suggest the winner is.....

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    Also, as the road-way in is one-way from Broughton Road it feels like you're going the wrong way when trundling over from any of the path-access points.

    When I was there on Friday afternoovening the shed-racks were full, the red stands empty and every white pillar along the side of the car park path had a bike on.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    The Google StreetView car managed to catch a couple of bikes!

    And when the hedge was in better nick.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    Also, as the road-way in is one-way from Broughton Road it feels like you're going the wrong way when trundling over from any of the path-access points.

    I am pretty sure that is not actually one-way. It just looks like it is. The bin lorries and a few other things go in and out the same way.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    Presume hedge mutilated to make people feel safer?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "I am pretty sure that is not actually one-way. It just looks like it is."

    Well it's private land so no idea if a one-way is 'legal', there are a couple of signs -

    (And room for a contra-flow cycle lane.)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Tesco's is bad enough on an "official" sign, but Cannonmill's is inexcusable.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Agree.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. Min
    Member

    Cannonmill's

    Now you are at it too! ;-)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonmills

    For extra completion CM PS closed in the '50s.

    Building is now flats (previously Canonmills Special School)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. DaveC
    Member

    I assume as cars can carry more away from Tesco they prefer customers to arrive by car, or better still van! ;O)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Now you are at it too! ;-)

    Indeed. Hoisted by my own pedantic petard.

    I assume as cars can carry more away from Tesco they prefer customers to arrive by car, or better still van

    Silly Tesco. Cyclists get to eat more, they should be encouraging people with transportation-induced appetites. Cake sales could be quadrupled!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "I assume as cars can carry more away from Tesco they prefer customers to arrive by car, or better still van!"

    Yes

    BUT

    (My bold)

    "

    These changes, experienced by all the "Big Four" supermarkets, suggest that the era of the once-a-week big shop is nearing an end. People are tending to buy less but are shopping more frequently and have "segmented" their shopping, buying items from different places based on either price or convenience.

    "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29442383

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. BenN
    Member

    Also, just to keep the anti-this-store vibe going, the silly big wooden Tesco sign at the entrance completely obscures the dropped kerb at the top of the slope from left turning traffic:

    https://goo.gl/maps/ykKDK

    My solution is to have myself of the wife push the massive toddler-buggy across whilst the the other stands two metres uphill in the middle of the access road to stop traffic. Seriously.

    Have written to them about this, but was so pleased that we got the Big Hello of Death moved that I didn't push it. Now may be the time!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    STILL unsorted.

    Why does Tesco care so little for people who arrive on foot from New Town and North Ed?

    Why is CEC so keen on promoting ‘technological solutions’ rather than enabling existing ‘active travellers’??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

  18. dessert rat
    Member

    Yup racks are rubbish as well. One near the entrance which is always overfull and some pathetic red BSO thing right at the pedestrian pinchpoint towards the carpark - never seen a single bike on that one. They dgaf unless you're driving.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    I think canonmills Tesco was first Edinburgh supermarket with covered racks. Always rammed. The racks came out of the ground with sheer volume of use. They did fix them but have struggled to increase volume. Despite the opening of the Rodney street tunnel. The red things are hopeless. The big issue vendor used to look after your bike if you were just nipping in.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. McD
    Member

    Action anybody?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. dessert rat
    Member

    who do we need to harangue? I am happy to pester people

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. Frenchy
    Member

    Presumably Tesco, possibly via sympathetic local councillors (Susan Rae?).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    “who do we need to harangue? I am happy to pester people”

    “Presumably Tesco, possibly via sympathetic local councillors (Susan Rae?).”

    Yes, but Tesco clearly don’t understand/care.

    Are those stupid red things ignorance or contempt?

    Cllrs Mowat and Osler have responded to this -

    https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/1068797008163598336

    Will be interesting to see if this gets a reply -

    https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/1069693255154049024

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. dessert rat
    Member

    is there a local contact for that (any) Tesco ? Happy to take time to explain the issue.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    For local, I suggest that old fashioned thing - a letter, asking for a meeting!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Response just in!

    https://twitter.com/CllrWhyte/status/1069701581304709120

    Personally I think this is buckpassing.

    Iain promoted the idea of hire bikes years ago (before Boris) - so not just about his ward.

    At least he supports cycling.

    Maybe get Nick on the case??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    So are you going to chase the 4 Leith Walk councillors who, 2 days in, haven't responded at all (a Green councillor amongst them) or just complain about the 2 non-Tesco ward Tories who have at least given (valid-ish) responses, even if they're not to your liking?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    Not complaining or questioning validity.

    Thread moved on.

    Another Conservative has joined in


    If it was Sainsbury’s Blackhall, Waitrose Comely Bank or Scotmid Hamilton Place I’d be happy to lead.

    https://twitter.com/cllrwhyte/status/1069728204661895168

    Sainsbury’s Blackhall mmm (goes to look for other thread!)

    And now LW Green -

    I already have an idea of where to start with this. Am in the office tomorrow so can make a start.

    https://twitter.com/susan4leithwalk/status/1069730320788963328

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Further reply from Iain Whyte about Craigleith/Sainsbury’s -

    https://twitter.com/cllrwhyte/status/1069735669080182784

    Previous thread -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16940

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. the canuck
    Member

    WR comely bank could use more cycle locks, but the ones currently there don't seem to stop rule 2 eejits locking up in the wheelchair access ramps.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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