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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!) CCWEL

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  1. gembo
    Member

    @rosie will check out Kevin mccloud. The house has a hidden bath, I am not so keen on baths under beds etc but obviously if space is tight. If you do Google Earth on forth street there are many more trees than you might predict.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "that is where Henderson's wines has gone after leaving roseburn."

    Hadn't realised/remembered it used to be in Roseburn.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "If you do Google Earth on forth street there are many more trees than you might predict."

    If you mean Hart Street, I presume some have been replaced by new house.

    Check StreetView and see the modern house on the other side of the road.

    http://www.zonearchitects.co.uk/projects/new-town-house-edinburgh

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    Well hart street if you want yes, that is where the house is but it is in a tight corner, not sure if trees came out for it so I mean the area in general has a lot of trees that I was unaware of from walking about it, internally to the tenement back greens etc, and many wee lanes that cut through from broughton street towards leith walk, almost a warren but not quite, no not exactly a warren but nearly.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Henderson's wines started in my knowledge of it on the corner of dundas street and Henderson row. Then it moved to roseburn then comiston. Each time the shop has increased in size a little, perhaps independent wine retailers can also resist the Internet?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Rosie
    Member

    Henderson's wine was a nice shop & I was sorry it moved.

    Supermarkets these days have got much better at stocking craft beers.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Shops and restaurants are enjoying a bumper run-up to Christmas after seeing a massive surge in visitors to the city centre. More than 150,000 more people visited the Princes Street and George Street area during the first two weeks of the busiest Christmas shopping period compared to last year.

    Shops are enjoying higher takings despite growing online competition, but bars, restaurants and hotels are the biggest winners. Some hotels are effectively fully booked.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/city-centre/edinburgh-shops-and-bars-enjoy-surge-in-christmas-visitors-1-4319957

    If only there were more places to take pressure off the city centre.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    I read on the BBC website that a comprehensive review of option a will be carried out 12 months after it is created.

    I must start going to the wee cafe that folk on here were raving about.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    @gembo - they've put an application in to extend in to the florist next door and become a fully fledged restaurant

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    @stickman, sounds good, where is it exactly? Over the river on the north side?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Stickman
    Member

    Yep. Same block as the launderette, opposite end.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. stiltskin
    Member

    Yes. It is over the old bridge on the north side.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "Over the river on the north side?"

    Yes.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cafe+Colpamia,+8+Murrayfield+Pl,+Edinburgh+EH12+6AA,+UK/@55.9463096,-3.2358805,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4887c65329f86055:0xaa8e47569e55dbe3?hl=en-GB

    But they weren't a visible objector.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. stiltskin
    Member

    No. On the contrary, Alessandro was benevolently neutral. So, given the circumstances he deserves our support for that.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "So, given the circumstances he deserves our support for that."

    Indeed.

    Of course 'we' 'must' support the shops on RT to stop them going out of business as predicted...

    Though, you'd think they'd get lots of support from the passing motorists who will be held up by the new infrastructure.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Superfuzzbigmuff

    5:29 PM on 17/12/2016

    There are lots of ways to spend money in the city, but few of them give so many benefits. Investing in cycling pays us back many times over. There's some good info here: http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/dft-discovers-cycling-s-benefit-to-cost-ratio-is-off-the-scale/017088

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/final-route-for-new-edinburgh-cycle-path-given-go-ahead-1-4319683#comments-area

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Definitely going to pop in to that cafe, over festive period

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. unhurt
    Member

    @gembo "award winning house off broughton street has a video I saw online of the architect going through the nooks and crannies opening the windows which is a lovely palaver."

    Link? There is almost nothing I enjoy more than seeing into all the nooks & crannies of a cunningly contructed wee house!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    @unhurt, sorry was on Facebook weeks back, I will rootless around my own nooks and crannies to see if it appears.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    Presume vid here -

    http://www.richardmurphyarchitects.com/viewItem.php?id=2455

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    History

    Full pic

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    "Supermarkets these days have got much better at stocking craft beers."

    Indeed. Even LiDL!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    http://www.roseburncycleroute.org.uk/blog/go-ahead-option-roseburn

    Thank you CCE.

    With over 3,500 comments on this thread, this community has been enormously supportive, enthusiastic and creative. It's a great result.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "It's a great result"

    Hard to imagine without HC and key others.

    "this community has been enormously supportive, enthusiastic and creative"

    Yes, I assume no-one on here actually wrote anything in support of Option B(?)

    Don't feel bad if you did! CCE is for anyone who abides by the two rules.

    If you didn't get round to doing anything, plenty of opportunities in 2017.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    In case you haven't ever clicked on that website, this is what it's about -

    "

    Roseburn Cycle Route
    Evidence-based local community support

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "enormously supportive, enthusiastic and creative"

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Edinburgh's cycle way is likely to receive full backing from Sustrans Scotland, which promotes cycling, walking and public transport

    "

    It says here!?

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/14972700.Edinburgh_cycle_way_given_go_ahead_for_controversial_route_from_east_to_west/?ref=twtrec

    "

    Campaigner Peter Gregson, who organised petitions and protests against the route, said: “It is disappointing that all the political parties have swung into line. It’s been worth our protests, though, and we have achieved a lot, such as getting the taxi rank at Haymarket moved.

    "

    That's alright then.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. Rulou
    Member

    Does anyone know if the plan includes the introduction of contraflow cycling on Rutland Street - they resurfaced it but I don't know if it's officially 2-way? No, judging by the sweary taxi drivers I regularly encounter when avoiding the horrors of Shandwick Pl.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. Stickman
    Member

    ...we have achieved a lot...

    Actually, looking at his petition again, they have achieved a lot. The issues with the first designs - loss of loading, parking, bus stops on West Coates, taxi rank at Haymarket, etc - have been addressed through the stakeholder group.

    Think what could have been achieved quicker, and with much less pain and anger, if he hadn't taken the approach he did.

    Anyway, hopefully that's all history and the council have learnt a lot from its mistakes when it next plans a big project like this.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "Think what could have been achieved quicker, and with much less pain and anger, if he hadn't taken the approach he did."

    Not that 'we' are the arbiters, but don't think there is anything that PG got changed, that 'we' would have objected to.

    The whole point wasn't that it was just (the sterile and artificial) Opt A/B issue, but actually about making the proposals better, as well as (genuinely) improving Roseburn - in addition to a much better E-W cycling route.

    It would appear that most of the 'objectors' were worried about individual livelihoods - fair enough - but were persuaded that it would be all 'doom and gloom'.

    Additionally that congestion/pollution would be worse.

    Both fears are likely to be unfounded. But a review after 12 months will judge. In the meantime I assume that no-one will do anything to try to make the worst prophecies come true...

    Posted 8 years ago #

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