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  1. chdot
    Admin

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    A POWERFUL alliance of food and environmental groups is putting pressure on the Scottish Government to overhaul its plans to cut climate pollution from farming.

    A new coalition of 50 organisations and experts is writing a joint letter to ministers this week urging a “just transition towards carbon-neutral farming”. The signatories include the farmers’ union, crofters and landowners, as well major environmental and wildlife groups.

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    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16114555.Farms_at_centre_of_new_bid_to_halt_climate_change/

    Posted 6 years ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/06/mark-carney-warns-climate-change-threat-financial-system

    Posted 6 years ago #

  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Europe's heating system might not be as robust as previously thought.

    No more palm trees in Plockton if that goes off.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    AKA Gulf Stream?

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    The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a system of currents in the Atlantic Ocean, characterized by a northward flow of warm, salty water in the upper layers of the Atlantic, including the Gulf Stream, and a southward flow of colder, deep waters that are part of the Thermohaline circulation.

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation

    Posted 6 years ago #

  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Large expanses of cropland may fail altogether, and have to be converted to western-style grazing range. Water supplies could become a problem for urban areas.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  6. paulmilne
    Member

    From the abstract it sounds like it has been weakening for various reasons since the end of the Little Ice Age, and anthropocentric global warming will drive it's failure harder.

    The whole situation is chaotic, one change can trigger other unforeseen events. Our descendants are going to have it much tougher.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  7. unhurt
    Member

    Hope and mourning in the Anthropocene: Understanding ecological grief

    Someone's been looking inside my head after I read things like this ("Eerie silence falls on Shetland cliffs that once echoed to seabirds’ cries: Climate change has caused a catastrophic drop in the numbers of terns, kittiwakes and puffins"):

    "feelings of anger, hopelessness, distress, and despair".

    Posted 5 years ago #

  8. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.climateactionprogramme.org/news/scotland-making-strong-headway-in-cutting-carbon-emissions

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    Claim Scotland’s climate targets are toughest in the world is False

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    https://theferret.scot/scotlands-climate-targets-toughest-world/

    Posted 5 years ago #

  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Without the natural gas fueled Haber process and the agricultural use of diesel most of us would not be alive. Without coke-fueled smelting processes iron would be a luxury commodity. Scotland's forests wouldn't smelt metal for many years of Scottish steel use. Ditto concrete.

    Scotland as we know it only exists because of fossil fuels and to suggest otherwise is dangerous folly.

    I can't bring myself to type the list of things we need to do urgently because it just seems so unlikely.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/11/giant-african-baobab-trees-die-suddenly-after-thousands-of-years

    Posted 5 years ago #

  11. unhurt
    Member

    Well, that's depressing.

    As emailed to another CCEer in earlier enthusiam:

    Here’s to Unsuicide: An Interview with Richard Powers

    Push on past the opening para which assumes a knowledge of Powers' book(s) - it gets good.

    "When a person says, “I live in the real world,” they generally mean that they live in the artificially created social world, the human-made world that is hurtling toward a brick wall of its own making. This is what I’d ask the critics of the literature of extra-human awe:
    Which is more childish, naïve, romantic, or mystical: the belief that we can get away with making Earth revolve around our personal appetites and fantasies, or the belief that a vast, multi-million-pronged project four and a half billion years old deserves a little reverent humility?"

    Posted 5 years ago #

  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Most of us here will probably not live long enough to see these changes come fully to fruition, but our children will.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  13. paulmilne
    Member

    Here's one overview of possible actions:

    100% Renewable Energy: What We Can Do in 10 Years

    "Asking whether renewable energy could enable Americans to maintain their current lifestyle is therefore equivalent to asking whether renewable energy can keep us living unsustainably."

    "The most important thing to understand about the energy transition is that it’s not optional. Delay would be fatal. It’s time to make a plan—however sketchy, however challenging—and run with it, revising it as we go."

    Posted 5 years ago #

  14. chdot
    Admin

    From link

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    Transportation represents a large swath of energy consumption, and personal automobiles account for most of that. We could reduce oil consumption substantially if we all drove electric cars (replacing 250 million gasoline-fueled automobiles will take time and money, but will eventually result in energy and financial savings). Promoting walking, bicycling, and public transit will take much less time and investment.

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    Posted 5 years ago #

  15. chdot
    Admin

    https://twitter.com/cehseabirds/status/1007276885196369920

    Posted 5 years ago #

  16. Ed1
    Member

    If countries like norway and scotland keep selling oil people will consume it -) production process should possibly be put on countries stats.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  17. Morningsider
    Member

    Possibly my new favourite quote:

    "Jack Cousens, head of roads policy for the AA , said: "Having clean air in our towns and cities is important to everyone, including eight out of 10 drivers..."

    More madness: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16296532.Green_drive_to_ban_cars_in_cities__will_cost_jobs__warning/

    Posted 5 years ago #

  18. unhurt
    Member

    Interested in the two out of ten who don't think clean air is important. I mean, it's a stance...

    Posted 5 years ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    “More madness:”

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    But Neil Greig, director of policy at the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: “Public transport is not attractive to many people and walking or cycling does not work if you live in the suburbs, or have to get across the city.”

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    Posted 5 years ago #

  20. unhurt
    Member

    "Public transport is not attractive to many people"
    Translation: "my personal preferences are much more important that public health or indeed the basic functioning of the city for the majority of residents".

    Posted 5 years ago #

  21. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Public transport is not attractive to many people and walking or cycling does not work if you live in the suburbs, or have to get across the city.

    He's absolutely right too. Now what could reasonable solutions be? I shall scratch my chin.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandgas/174586/inoes-lose-out-in-challenge-to-scottish-governments-fracking-ban/

    Posted 5 years ago #

  23. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    INEOS will be back just as soon as the policy is decided.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  24. chdot
    Admin

    https://theferret.scot/ineos-plea-us-fracking-pipeline/

    Posted 5 years ago #

  25. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/17/sea-level-rise-impact-us-coastal-homes-study-climate-change

    Posted 5 years ago #

  26. chdot
    Admin

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    “Our research shows that demand for new runway capacity has nothing to do with business travel to emerging economies, or new domestic routes between London and Scotland. The drive to expand Heathrow is fundamentally about catering to the whims of an elite group of wealthy frequent leisure flyers, many of whom are travelling to second homes in Europe dozens of times a year.

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/heathrow-expansion-third-runway-rich-benefits-business-a8412121.html

    Posted 5 years ago #

  27. LaidBack
    Member

    If the SNP voted against this chances are Tories would be defeated.
    The fact they are possibly voting with the DUP is not good.
    I'm confused how expanding an airport in London ties in with reducing internal flights and promoting longer range non stop flights from Edinburgh to Doha etc?
    This of course is to tie in with a 'UK as usual' approach foisted on them by business. I would suggest voting against this will be best course of action for them as they will get no rewards from current admin in London. Of course Dublin may want third runway too and may be entwined with the other Brexit dynamic? Contradictions abound.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  28. chdot
    Admin

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    A stark warning that overly ambitious targets set out in the Scottish Parliament’s ­Climate Change Bill could prove ­disastrous for Scotland’s beef and sheep farmers was made at yesterday’s Royal Highland Show.

    Claiming that the thrust of the bill, plus the wider “anti-red meat” agenda, represented a far greater threat to the sector than the uncertainties of Brexit, Quality Meat Scotland (QMS) chairman Jim McLaren said his fears were backed up in documents from the Scottish Government.

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    https://www.scotsman.com/business/companies/farming/holyrood-s-emissions-proposals-devastating-for-farming-1-4758221

    Posted 5 years ago #

  29. LaidBack
    Member

    SNP abstained on the Heathrow 3rd Runway vote. At one stage it was being suggested that their votes could have defeated UKGov. Turned out though that masses of Labour MPs (and other parties) liked the idea of 'more planes to and from London' despite JC being against. Vote had majority of hundreds.
    Meanwhile in Wales the tidal power scheme for Swansea was ditched despite wide cross party support.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  30. LaidBack
    Member

    Cat Boyd writes in National today.
    "This time next week, on August 1st we'll reach 'Earth Overshoot Day', the (yearly) point at which our consumption is greater than the planet's ability to regenerate.
    "It's arriving two days earlier than last year..."

    http://www.thenational.scot/comment/columnists/16372735.a-reckoning-is-coming-which-will-make-donald-trump-appear-a-mere-blip/

    Posted 5 years ago #

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