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Edinburgh Police - Bike Safety Events (March 2016)

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  1. Rob
    Member

    "
    Bike safety events 2mo & next Thurs for checks & security markings
    "

    https://twitter.com/EdinburghPolice/status/709353035974242304

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. neddie
    Member

    "checks"?

    Hmmm, what kind of checks?

    Why aren't you wearing a h*lmet? Where's your hi-vis? Take your headphones out...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    Oh and they've even thrown in a nice "CYCLISTS STAY BACK" poster.

    And telling people how 'dangerous' cycling is

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. Rob
    Member

    Only if the comments on the Facebook article get their way :)

    More detail:

    "
    DRIVE SAFE CYCLE SAFE

    Is your bike safe for the summer?

    Come along to one of the 'Streets Ahead' spring road shows and let our road safety professionals have a look.

    At the events, there will be -

    · free bike checks by the Bike Station

    · bike security marking by local officers

    · bike accessory giveaways

    · safety demonstrations and much more...

    DATES FOR YOUR DIARIES...
    Tuesday 15 March, 11am to 2pm
    Heriot Watt University
    Meadow Road, at the access road to Leonard Horner Hall

    Thursday 24 March, 11am to 2pm
    Edinburgh University
    Charles Street, Potterrow campus, by the Informatics building

    The number of people cycling in Edinburgh is increasing as is, unfortunately, the number of cyclist casualties.

    You'll even have the chance to jump in to a Lothian Bus or a Council waste vehicle and see the blind spots in large vehicles for yourself!
    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. wingpig
    Member

    "At the events, there will be -

    · bike security marking by local officers"

    As these are at university campuses, is there any restriction on who is allowed to have their bike security-marked? When they were at the sports centre last year (when it was the servitors doing the marking/recording rather than the polices) they unfortunately didn't discover that I was neither staff nor student until after they'd done the tagging.

    Also, WRT: "You'll even have the chance to jump in to a Lothian Bus or a Council waste vehicle and see the blind spots in large vehicles for yourself!": 10, 9, 8...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. sallyhinch
    Member

    If anyone wanted to show up and distribute a few POP flyers then they'd be giving cycling safety a real boost ...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Dave
    Member

    You'll even have the chance to jump in to a Lothian Bus or a Council waste vehicle and see the blind spots in large vehicles for yourself!

    I highly recommend this to anyone who wants to see for themselves that there's pretty much no blind spot at all on these vehicles.

    I went to one a few years ago expecting to be horrified at the size of the blind spots, but actually I left horrified that people can still use it as an excuse for crappy driving.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. jdanielp
    Member

    Good idea. I've put details of this event up on various of the cycling news channels at Heriot-Watt so heading along to it for a while with some of the PoP flyers would be sensible. I'll be postering around the campus by the end of the month as well...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    4.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. condor2378
    Member

    3?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. wingpig
    Member

    Nope. Stopped at 4.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Min
    Member

    What did?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "Drive Safe" - by having no intention to speak to a single driver?

    Yeah, thanks for that EdinburghPolis

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. "I went to one a few years ago expecting to be horrified at the size of the blind spots, but actually I left horrified that people can still use it as an excuse for crappy driving."

    Pretty sure that was the same one I went to. My (similar) take was that there are blindspots, but they are ridiculously easily removed by the appropriate placement of a couple of good mirrors. So cheap. So easy. So entirely bizarre that they're not installed on every single truck to completely remove the blindspot excuse.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    "What did?"

    My countdown until Dave repeated that he'd sat in the big yellow truck and seen no blindspots. I sat in the same big yellow truck when they'd removed the big stick-on Fresnel lens on the passenger-side window and observed that there were several places a cyclist could be where you couldn't immediately tell they were there unless they waved at you, due to the curvature of the mirrors and the resultant very small area in the field of view of a driver in the driver's seat which the cyclist ended up occupying - if their movement towards and arrival into those spots had not been noted then their presence in them could be far from obvious.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    IMV (excuse the pun), the (rearward) blind spot myth has originated from a genuine problem with rearward vision from artic HGVs once a turn has been commenced, and has since been jumped on by all manner of negligent operators and drivers. In particular, modern rigid bodies (like, ahem, buses and bin lorries, if 'Streets Ahead' happen to be looking in) with appropriately adjusted mirrors should have no excuses. If the mirrors are actually used, that is.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "If the mirrors are actually used, that is."

    A genuine problem.

    Always safer to assume that you've not been seen, esp if any chance of vehicle turning left.

    At red lights I'll filter past big things if there's an ASL and the lights have recently changed, otherwise I'm inclined to hang back.

    Wasn't always the case...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    "Drive Safe - by having no intention to speak to a single driver? Yeah, thanks for that EdinburghPolis"

    See:
    https://youtu.be/yBPlZeUg4mE

    (Not actually directed at transport issues as will be obvious, but directly relevant all the same)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. jdanielp
    Member

    Just had a quick chat with the Police at the Heriot-Watt event who kindly allowed me to leave a pile of PoP flyers on their stand. I'll pop back in the afternoon to collect the remainders and maybe have a go in the drivers' seats.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Instead of patronising nonsense like this why don't the police just do a day of vigorous enforcement instead (with fines and points instead of a chat).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. jdanielp
    Member

    I'm not sure why I bothered taking the PoP leaflets over. The Police stand was more populated with other leaflets and cycling-related freebies by the time I went back a little before they were packing up but there was no obvious sign that any PoP leaflets had been taken, although I suppose it would be worth it even if one one person took one away. The weather didn't exactly help. I also learnt that the Bike Bothy is closing today due to the running out of Transition Heriot-Watt's funding (which I did know about but I thought it would be going until the end of March at least) and that there are no firm plans going forward. Oriam, the compant that is responsible for the new Sports Performance Centre that is being built on the campus may take it over, but nothing is clear yet...

    Posted 8 years ago #

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