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  • Started 9 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. Being two months into a much longer commute, taking in Edinburgh from east to west and back again, on roads and cyclepaths and routes I didn’t know too much until now, I have had a lot of rather random thoughts on cycling in the city recently.

    Trams
    I really like the section of cyclepath from Balgreen to Saughton. Ah, separated loveliness. What I really don’t understand is why they didn’t apply the principles of that route (following the tramline ‘including’ on bridges over obstructions) to the entire route from Haymarket to the Airport. Can you imagine what a joyous flagship and statement about cycling that would be for the city? Instead it’s a short section, before you’re into bitty segments with road crossings that you have to divert down to, and wait for lights to change in barriered off narrowings shared with pedestrians.

    Haymarket
    WTF? I mean, WT actual F? 15 years or so I’ve commuted regularly by bike in Edinburgh now. I don’t even consider Haymarket when going east to west.

    MGIF
    I will never understand the motivation of drivers who, with a queue of traffic ahead, cars coming the other way, a traffic island in the immediate vicinity, just neeeeeeed to get in front of the bike, only to be re-passed less than two seconds after they’ve reached that queue. Seems to be getting worse. In the last week I’ve had three or four people had to haul on the brakes because, while being so intent on getting passed me, they appeared to completely miss the stationary traffic ahead.

    Lothian Buses
    Abysmal these days. Sad fall from grace.

    Potholes
    Some of the road surfaces in this city, whether you’re on a bike or in a car, are truly shocking.

    My Bike
    I might think it’s a beat up old thing, much like its owner, but it gets a remarkable number of positive comments on its looks, unlike its owner. I need to design a pannier, however, that isn’t just a void to be filled, and instead can be compartmentalised into work clothes / food / tools / camera.

    The Canal
    Save for two occasional specific 100m sections, I just don’t. I’ve had aggressive cycling, aggressive pedestrianizing, passive-aggressive responses to a bell, passive-aggressive responses to no bell, and comforted a (drunk) dog walker who was upset to the point of tears that a cyclist coming the other way had almost hit her dog. I’ll stick with the cars…

    Bus Lanes
    I take a number of routes (to keep things fresh innit), but by far my favourite section is Haymarket to the Gyle through Corstorphine, and the many miles of bus lane (even if it does disappear occasionally). I also, to my surprise, found the same enjoyment of riding Calder Road. While not universally respected, it’s so much better than (unprotected, unsegregated) bike lanes.

    Roseburn
    Illegally parked cars replicate a segregated bike lane perfectly. A bike lane wouldn’t increase congestion in the slightest, just inconvenience a few parkers who shouldn’t be there in the first place.

    City Centre
    Laughable in terms of cycling provision. London Road to the city centre? Challenging (and requires a fair amount of confidence I would suggest). Haymarket see above. There really is some good cycling provision in Edinburgh, just not if you want to go to the middle.

    Cycling in General
    Still, despite the above, the most relaxed way to get about the city (as in it deals with any work stress admirably), and even going ten miles each way it is still quicker for me, including changing time, than taking the car, or the bus/tram combo.

    Told you this was a random post, and I'm sure there's some stuff I've forgotten...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    "and instead can be compartmentalised into work clothes / food / tools / camera"

    I keep my tools inside my panniers in one of those triangular frame bags, which has the multiple advantages of keeping everything together without anything sharp poking its way out, limiting the amount of rarely-needed stuff I nevertheless lug everywhere, stopping other things in the pannier from getting poked, easy transferability to other bags and the ability to take it out and attach it to the frame if I need the extra pannier-space for some shopping. I tend to try and keep clothes separate by rolling them up inside a carrier bag or one of those thick polythene postage bags and keep my camera separate inside a smaller shoulder bag. Food either goes in another carrier bag or in one of those wee thermal sandwich bag things. I've never seen a shop-pannier with any internal divisions other than longitudinal-to-the-bike laptop-sleeve sections.

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  3. Min
    Member

    I do think a proper internal divider would be a good thing. I keep things in their own bags but you still have to rummage for each individual bag. The type you get in camera bags would be perfect as you can just velcro them wherever is convenient to you. On the other hand, velcro is a bit evil when in conjunction with clothes etc. Perhaps a popper system would work?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. That's exactly the type of thing I was thinking of Min. I pretty do as wingpig suggests already, but it still feels a bit of a stramash.

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  5. "can be compartmentalised into work clothes / food / tools / camera"

    Continental-style solution: Tie/tape/screw old vegetable box onto rack, large enough to hold an IKEA rucksack. Buy an IKEA rucksack at IKEA.

    Advantages:
    - when you get off the bike, you don't look like a cyclist.
    - no fiddling when you take the panniers off, either cutting your fingers or breaking off some flimsy plastic part that's not designed for actual use, like most bicycle accessoires.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. paddyirish
    Member

    @WC, very entertaining and accurate summary of my monthly cycle from East to West across the City Centre.

    Canal is a no-no (sadly) - I love the odd commute via Linlithgow to the West of the City and hardly meet a soul which makes up for the bumpy ride. and the quiet routes through Gyle/Edinburgh park are a faff. Tried A8 once and probably will again, though there are some potchasms along there. Not tried the Balgreen Route - will have to give that a look...

    In terms of compartmentalising, I 've found a set of multicoloured lightweight dry sacks (not the heavyweight bombproof ones for kayaking/watersports, but very lightweight, different sizes and weatherproof in case your panier/rucksack isn't). Last longer than poly bags, can take a bit of abuse.

    But handy if tools are in orange, clothes in red, paperwork/devices in blue, food in yellow etc...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. The Balgreen to Saughton path alongside the tramlines is great. As you say, it's a pity that they didn't continue that loveliness with a path alongside the tram all the way.

    Other highlights you missed are the South Gyle Access dog-leg/narrow central refuge and nearby telephone junction box in the centre of the bike lane; farcilities of the highest order ;-)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    London Road to city centre alternative: Regent Road, Waterloo Place. Tends to be quieter, despite a few express bus services using that route. Also no roundabouts, excepting the mini bus turning circle thing opposite St Andrew's House. Otherwise Holyrood Park then either through the Parly to Holyrood Road or Royal Mile.

    Of course you have the option of bypassing the centre entirely if you go via Innocent Railway then Meadows and on westwards...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. Oh got (and tried) plenty alternatives. Regent Road I took once, then made the mistake of going along Princes Street. Stopped at every set of lights, then when you get to Haymarket you've got to shuffle round Torphicen rather than being allowed to go straight (and it puts you right through Haymarket). I'd have to skip right onto George Street to make that 'fun' I think. I still don't think it's a route that is particularly nice for beginners, especially once you get to the bottom of North Bridge.

    Innocent, Meadows, Gilmore I've done a lot coming home (after using Calder Road). For some reason going to work in the morning it takes about 5 minutes longer, despite the distances being pretty much the same. I think it's cos the A8 route is just straight, and just slightly rising. The Innocent also 'feels' like it's taking me more out of my way with the big shunt south to begin.

    tfl, ah yes, I'd forgotten about the 'furniture'...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. steveo
    Member

    The Corstorphine Road green ways were the highlight of my morning when I worked in town. Used absolutely fly past the zoo, it all went horribly wrong once you got to Roseburn, narrow slow etc and once past the surface past Donaldsons was (is) hopeless. This was before The Trams and the mess that Haymarket has been left in.

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  11. crowriver
    Member

    "I still don't think it's a route that is particularly nice for beginners, especially once you get to the bottom of North Bridge."

    No, that is not nice, even off peak. Indeed I try to avoid that way, especially with kids on tandem/tagalong. Just too many irate and/or unpredictable taxis, buses, vans and HGVs on the stretch between Waterloo Place and Waverley Bridge. Then you've the tram lines 'squeeze' at the RSA building at the foot of the mound: often get into 'scrapes' there with hurtling buses, taxis, etc.

    North Bridge is like a race track much of the time, unless it's completely jammed with traffic. Junction with High Street very unpleasant. I still go this way quite a lot though to get to Chambers Street then Meadows.

    "The Innocent also 'feels' like it's taking me more out of my way with the big shunt south to begin."

    But when you look on the map it's probably as direct from your location. Maybe the other way seem more direct because it's where "everyone else" is going (especially motor traffic) - some kind of herd effect? I know I used to suffer from this assumption that the main road is the shortest route - it often is, but not always...

    I suppose Duddingston Low Road would be a compromise route, but then you lose the traffic free benefits of the Innocent...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. Gave up on the Duddingston Low Road (westbound) years ago - just felt like only a matter of time before someone took me out! (and in a 'park', sheesh).

    May go the Innocent again tomorrow and have a think about alternatives after the Meadows.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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