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Commuting from Eskbank/Lasswade

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  • Started 8 years ago by Murun Buchstansangur
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  1. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    So it appears Mrs MB and I have sold our place unexpectedly quickly, hence we've no firm plans on where we'll fetch up next. A cursory search reveals some possible places in the Lasswade/Eskbank vicinity - what's the commute to the city centre like? I have to say I despise cycling the A7 even at less busy times, and am not much keener on Lasswade Rd - are there other less busy options to inside the bypass that I'm missing?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "are there other less busy options to inside the bypass that I'm missing?"

    Probably not!

    There's the path from Loanhead that goes under the bypass, but probably not much use to you unless you move to Loanhead or Roslin.

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  3. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Yes, I know that path well, but a bit of a detour & not sure I fancy onward travel on the non-streetlit bits of Polton Bank or Wadingburn Rd on a dark wet winter's night.

    Looks like there might be through routes in Kings Acre Golf Course, but one would probably be chased by greenkeepers with specially sharpened rakes if used too often...

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  4. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    You could ride through Dalkeith Country Park to join the Salters Road at Smeaton and take a left on the approach to Whitecraig to reach the North Esk Path. Then it's NCN1 all the way into Edinburgh.

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  5. amir
    Member

    I commute from Eskbank to KB. The short route I use is via Gilmerton Road. The pavement can be used from by Dobbies to just outside Gilmerton, though I don't usually use it due higher chance of punctures and difficulties crossing back by Gimerton (a factor rarely considered by planners).

    However during reasonable weather I tend to take a longer way in and vary the route. Examples include via Musselburgh (road, NCN, or Dalkeith country park) and via Roslin and the Loanhead path.

    Incidentally my general preference between Eskbank and Dobbies is along the A7 "bypass" between Lasswade Rd and Dobbies since it provides a flatter, smoother route than the fun dip to Elginhaugh.

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  6. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Thanks Cyclingmollie, but that's a big detour - 15 miles instead of 8.

    Just GSV'd Polton Bank, and it looks like it has street lights all the way, so that's better than I thought. Still a winding wee road though.

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  7. amir
    Member

    PS the benefits of taking a longer route via the outskirts of Musselburgh is that it's a lot flatter (hence the route of the railway) as well as being quieter even on the road.

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  8. amir
    Member

    Polton Bank is pretty steep and narrow. Fun when it's quiet and not slippery but ...

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  9. Klaxon
    Member

    I accidentally visited Polton Bank a couple of years ago and was floored

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1330930

    Avg grade 7%, basically equal to the steep bit of the climb on Arthur's Seat but with the added fun of two way traffic: https://www.strava.com/segments/5460084

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  10. chdot
    Admin

    "possible places in the Lasswade/Eskbank vicinity"

    Other towns/villages/neighbourhoods are available.

    Not helpful of course!

    Moving house to a new area is always a challenge/balance - 'nice area', 'houses prices', 'commuting costs', 'amenities' (inc schools if children exist/planned).

    Various Edinburgh v outside threads on here in the past.

    I get the impression that more CCEers live in Fife than Midlothian, which seems odd.

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  11. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Thanks amir. That's very useful.

    I guess part of it's also leisure/family cycling. We're used to being able to set off with our bike seat-aged child to visit or meet friends via the NEPN, but I just can't see that being possible without either navigating Dalkeith to get to NCN1 or the issues already touched on about getting to the Loanhead path.

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  12. Frenchy
    Member

    The B6932 from Eskbank into Gilmerton is all right in my experience, although I've never done it at particularly busy times. It has a (rather narrow) cycle lane the whole way, and the pavement is shared use from the turnoff to Melville Castle.

    My experience is that drivers are less friendly on Old Dalkeith Road, although the pavement there is shared use all the way from Dalkeith to the bypass. Sheriffhall roundabout isn't exactly fun though.

    From Lasswade, I think I'd go via Loanhead, then get onto the old railway path to Gilmerton. There's a shared use pavement between Gilmerton Station Road and Lang Loan (not marked on Google Maps yet). From there the road is fine.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "Commuting from Lasswade / Bonnyrigg to the Gyle"

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15764

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. amir
    Member

    In many ways navigating from Gilmerton to the town centre is more nerve-racking than from Dalkeith to Gilmerton if you use the paths alongside the roads rather than cycle on the road. However fundamentally it is quite a long way to the NEPN! If the places you want to get are north of the city centre, Musselburgh could be a better bet.

    On the plus side though there is a good railway service now.

    We moved out to Eskbank because of the house prices, but also easier access to wonderful countryside, near to a small town (Dalkeith), good walks etc. But we don't have kids and I do work south of the city centre. It is due to the move out of town that I became a more avid cyclist not the other way round..

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  15. zesty
    Member

    I cycle from Bonnyrigg into town and going the Lasswade road is so easy, I'm not a roadie and generally dont like cycling on the road (give me mountains any day). You have the cycle path from the bypass all the way up the hill to the Murrays.

    After Kirk Brae I use causeway side all the way to the meadows and down Lothian road.

    In the morning its quite busy but that makes it easier for cycling as the traffic is moving so slowly and you can skoot down the outside no problem

    Way home can be interesting cycling back up Kirk brae and up to the Murrays

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  16. Frenchy
    Member

    The road through Lasswade is more "interesting" than Kirk Brae, isn't it?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. slowcoach
    Member

    I just checked out the Community Links Fund details from yesterday to see if any improvements might help but neither of the schemes in Midlothian seem to help here much.

    Curiously though, the cost information seems to have been removed from the website, while the wrong location of the Stirling scheme (put near Moffat) and the dot for the Hawick scheme hiding under the place name at some scales have not been fixed.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. holisticglint
    Member

    I cycle into Newington from beyond Gorebridge (it's a state of mind) and usually just grit my teeth and go along the A7. Amir is right about the going over the hill at Gilmerton on the shared path although making the road crossings at rush hour is tricky.

    Traffic on A7 is actually fairly slow at peak times but there are a few horrible spots. Sheriffhall is not as bad as it looks, honest!

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  19. Frenchy
    Member

    So what are realistic improvements which could be made here?

    Cycle lanes/shared use pavement on Lasswade Road all the way to Lasswade?
    Wider cycle lane on the B6392?
    Cycle lane on Sheriffhall roundabout?
    Shared use pavement between Loanhead and Lasswade?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. neddie
    Member

    There was once supposed to be a pedestrian/cycle bridge built over Sheriffhall r'bout, but the money that was allocated got squirreled away by some corrupt officials...

    See: http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3277

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  21. I'm with holisticglint on Sheriffhall - never had any problems commuting over it regularly a lot of years back, and more recently went over a couple of times and 'generally' lane discipline isn't too bad, which makes it easier, as long as you take that lane.

    I certainly always found it easier to just ride the roundabout than a couple of times I tried to go round the outside using the path and crossings. Far too much fast moving traffic heading perpendicularly towards you.

    That said, the bridge would've been great (it was marked on the very first Spokes map I bought when I moved down in 2000 as something that was scheduled to happen).

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  22. chdot
    Admin

    "What happened to the Sheriffhall bridge?"

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3277

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. From that thread:

    "There is still no decent cycle route between Edinburgh and Midlothian.

    At one time there was to be by one by the side of the Borders line. Don't know if that us still in the plan."

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  24. chdot
    Admin

    "Don't know if that us still in the plan."

    Well we do know now!

    They didn't even bother to put decent cycle infrastructure on the realigned Millerhill Road.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. zesty
    Member

    "The road through Lasswade is more 'interesting' than Kirk Brae, isn't it?"

    Oh ye, that's a right leg buster that one, especially since its the last mile of my commute!

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  26. Rob
    Member

    I was visiting Eskbank today. Inspired partly by this thread and partly by Strava routes, I took a completely new route - RIE (lovely off road section into the grounds), Gilmerton Road, under the bypass (another lovely off road section) and up Polton Bank.

    Very enjoyable, thanks all for sharing!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    holisticglint: usually just grit my teeth

    That. I cycled into Leith and Edinburgh from Musselburgh for over ten years. I eventually switched from an on-road to an off-road route. Personal preference of course but I got to the point where I couldn't stand cycling in busy traffic any more. Too many idiots in cars.

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