@bax, noticed this and thought it bizarre. Impact is pretty huge. Surely stagecoach could have done an amended timetable with some express and some stopping services.
@rider73- is the speed camera for the road or bikes?
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"Queensferry Crossing project ‘months behind schedule’ "
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@paddyirish
you're right, the impact is massive. yet no one cares a jot
transport scotland under estimate delays by hours, and massage their tweets with purile emojis as if we're all in the same boat
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PS lets not forget !!!
Stagecoach fund the SNP in a massive way via Brian Soutar
bus regulation or fare integration is not on their agenda
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-put-spot-over-7667194
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@bax = for the bikes!!!!! (and pedestrians if they are walking too fast!)
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I got the bus home from Fife last night as my train was cancelled. I had assumed the buses were using the new link from Echline to the A90 so was surprised to discover they are all going both ways along the A904.
Stagecoach really are a joke of a bus company, they have a virtual monopoly of Fife to Edinburgh services so any suggestion that the buses don't go where people work or run a poor service is entirely down to them. As you say Bax SNP (amongst others) could do something about it but choose not to.
I owe Cole-Hamilton a reply to an earlier email on the bridge so think I might bring this to his attention.
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"I might bring this to his attention."
Might as well make use of knee-jerk opportunism if it's of use to the cause! :-)
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so, even though i thought last nights puncture was because i damaged my rim, today i'm not so sure.
it happened going north after FRB at the rear after going onto the "scraped tarmac section"today in the rain i noticed i got slow front puncture after FRB going south by the time i got to the pub at crammond i felt the tyre being squishy , and stopped and replaced it a few mins later - discovering my pump is not working properly - oh the pain!!!!
2 punctures 2 days.
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Cyclists finally back on the footpath from Ferrytoll up to FRB. About 40% lovely shiny new tarmac, 40% heading that way but needing the top layer and about 20% unchanged.
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Selected buses might now be allowed on the FRB, however I'm fairly certain that the private motor vehicle crossing this evening was breaking the rules. I hope they caught them on camera.
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buses, taxis "and authorised vehicles" sez the mothafokkin sign
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to paraphrase Amey's response to my complaint about their twitter feed's lack of FRB open/shut tweets to cyclists
the response from their media and comms division is that they are only bothering to auto-retweet Traffic Scotland tweets now, where the bridge(s) happen to be mentioned.
that's all they are prepared to do on their twitter account now.
so i pointed out that Traffic Scotland are unashamedly motor-centric and did not tweet about the high winds FRB closure (or reopening) to cyclists earlier this week.
but apparently this was just down to "simple human error".
so thats ok then
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Saw a "FRB CLOSED TO DOUBLE DECKERS" gantry sign at the weekend. Do they divert them to the QC now with its wind defences or is it still Kincardine? The sign didn't say.
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@livd
i remember the double deckers !
did ye know that Brinsley Forde of Aswad was in the double deckers ?
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special request to the 80s ladbroke grove possePosted 7 years ago # -
i see a lot of buses still using the QFC .....
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aye - hapy to keep FRB quiet.
The footpath on the N side is just about done, and it looks really good, though too many traffic cones on it when I last went by on Tuesday evening.
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@rider73 - AFAIK the only buses currently using the FRB are the 747 and X55, which are the ones that stop on the slip road at Echline and were previously having to divert there and back from the QC south approach. All other buses are using QC until the surfacing and approach road works on the FRB are complete.
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I crossed the bridge today. Multiple "cyclists dismount" signs.
I guess it's the way cyclists are meant to cross the Forth, but at the same time, you're not allowed to cycle it.
Another example of "Schrodinger's Cycling Infrastructure."
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@gibbo, I guess you paid those signs the attention they deserved?
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I guess you paid those signs the attention they deserved?
Yep. I even had a worky wave me past one of them. So, clearly, he didn't think much of it, either.
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I'm not sure what they expect us to do with them. "Dismount and use footpath"
Without any specific guidance I assume they mean that you are to remount before using the footpath. Otherwise you would become a pedestrian and so the second part of the advice would be irrelevant.
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The current 40 mph speed limit has been in place for driver and worker safety during construction of the bridge and tie-ins with the road network and existing Forth Road Bridge.
As these works reach their final phases, the limit on the M90 across the Forth can now be safely raised to 50 mph between Scotstoun in the south and Admiralty in the north.
This follows the first stage of reopening the old bridge for public transport use last month. Scheduled public buses began using the Forth Road Bridge on October 13 and the necessary works to allow other buses, taxis and motorcycles to join them are nearing completion. Finally, full motorway and public transport corridor regulations are expected to come into force later in the year.
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by their own admittance, the "cyclist must dismount" signage is mitigation should infrastructure flap about in high winds
they don't want you knocked off your bike by their fences
but its ok if youre on foot, presumably
bizarre logic
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how long do we think before they re-open the original FRB to other types of traffic than lothian buses/ taxi's because its clear they have spent an awful lot of money on something thats exactly the same as before!
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@rider73
Dartfordisation is the obvious end-game. I give it a couple of years.
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"I give it a couple of years."
I reckon it will happen if there's a change of party in power after 2020 election. Imagine Ruth Davidson as First Minister (shudder).
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On the bright side, if other users "have" to use the FRB, that means it will have to be maintained and remain open for cyclists.
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I don't use the bridge during the week. Is the volume of buses/taxis/bikes such that it would continue to justify its existence? Otherwise I agree with Crowriver, that sadly a change of political wind will result in it being announced to be too expensive to keep open.
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Indeed, if it essentially costs £10K every time a cyclist goes over it, it won't last long.
Would be worth seeing those figures after a year of use.
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