"It came after incidents in March last year in which fall seeing ice had resulted in three car windscreens being smashed."
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"Queensferry Crossing project ‘months behind schedule’ "
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Posted 4 years ago #
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Interesting SParli exchange attached
https://twitter.com/jamiegreeneuk/status/1227151277005660160
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The poor commuters on that Twitter exchange really do need to start paying the true cost of taking their cars. They seem oblivious to this.
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Talk of installing sensors for ice. Contract going out for this according to transport minister.
Taken a while though - hence ScotGov under a lot of pressure.
Once QC has sensors then the bridge can close before ice falls?
That of course will not be popular. Estimated to have stayed open on 30 occasion s when FRB would have been closed. Rail bridge of course is most resiliant!Posted 4 years ago # -
They just need to fit rubber "shakers" to all the support cables and pylons, like they have on the wings of turbo-prop aircraft (engines don't generate enough heat for de-icing the wings).
I'm sure it would only cost a mere £250m - but that's nothing when it comes to keeping the all important commuters from Fife moving...
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any fool can see that this is merely a covert dry run for the upcoming Fife-Wuhan containment
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Oh dear, danger of in-breeding in Fife again.
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@neddie - can't they employ ice-climbers with crampons and wee axes? "De-icing the Queensferry Crossing" could replace "Painting the Forth Bridge".
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Who needs crampons? (Reference to three out of four idiots rescued off Ben Nevis last night in their gutties)
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employ ice-climbers with crampons and wee axes
Good idea. They could get Underbelly to make it a paid event.
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Ben Nevis last night? Natural selection cheated.
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@IWRATS yes they were probably inches from death. No maps, ice axes or crampons. Or indeed boots. Just gutta percha training shoes
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Dunlop Green Flash I hope?
I once came inches from walking off Ben Macdui and I was kitted up and it was just fog but I was chatting to my mate. Life ban for those people when I am Dictator Benign Of All Caledonia.
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“Life ban”
Would you deport them??
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@chdot - "Mind the gaps"
Surely if they drove James Bond style they could be leaping those gaps.
@IWRATS - I wonder what nationality those numpties are? Scotland's mountains can look like big hills to those with superior peaks - they mightn't recognise just how dangerous they are.
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According to media there are extra buses and longer trains to and from Fife today.
Imagine Ferrytoll and station parking will be full as people try and avoid the much slower drive by Kincardine.
Obviously some users journeys need a car or van. New QC has managed to grow car use so some of these may revert to more expensive public transport temporarily.Posted 4 years ago # -
I thought the station carpark would have been busy today, but it was fairly empty, though maybe further along they were busy.
The peak 8:10 service I get was busy, if amnyithing just a little busier than normal. There was no-one in my carraige standing.
We offered the inlaws a bed for another night, but they were determined they were going home today and headed for the 15 mile queue to Kincardine. I don't know how long it took them to get to Livingston, probably still quicker than two trains and a bus to be fair.
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Michael Matheson has today admitted there is no known solution to the Queensferry Crossing falling ice problem. Looks like commuters should be braced for the risk of it closing any time it snows. In contrast, heavy snow has only closed the Forth Road Bridge once since it opened.
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https://twitter.com/mike_blackley/status/1227206788870758401
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Ice falling from bridge cables is not unique to Scotland...
Last year the Öresund Bridge was closed for this reason.New Civil Engineer looked at attempts to overcome it.
On FRB the cables go between the road and cycle decks so assume ice falls into sea?https://www.newcivilengineer.com/archive/bridge-brilliance-falling-ice-10-08-2016/
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On FRB the cables go between the road and cycle decks so assume ice falls into sea?
have seen bits of ice smashed on the cycle path now and then, toward the north end of FRB
nothing drastic though
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We are all such entitled cry-babies these days. The ice bridge whiners are going to need a nappy change when they hear about the futility of life and the inevitability of death.
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To be fair we do exactly the same when X cycle path is closed without warning, meaning we have to ride 1/2 a mile in the wrong direction on our journey...
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we do exactly the same when X cycle path is closed without warning
I must have missed that front page splash in the Herald.
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One housebound motorist 4 miles to south of edinburgh (could be near neighbour as takes 50 mins to get into town which is same for me on the bus) says they are delighted to pay for trams they have never used and the queensferry crossing they use 4 times a year. Nudge a few more characters into the tweet and you have let motorists pay the real cost of driving [from @CHdot’s latest twitterfeed]
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Lochaber Mountain Rescue are being very nice about the blokes they rescued, who had very limited English and who have made a donation.
https://twitter.com/theiaincameron/status/1227518840394915841
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I was surprised the first time I went to Ben Nevis that there wasn't any sort of signage that explained what a serious undertaking an ascent might be in the wrong conditions.
Low signage is very much in keeping with Scottish mountaineering tradition, but I wonder if an exception should be made given that it's often spoken of as if it's just another tourist attraction. You can get directions up there on Google Maps!
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