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TBH I mentally translated that as "I'm desperate to drive but only way I can do it is to game the system and it'll sound less bad if I bring the kid into it" chdot
Here's an interesting point though - are 'older' parents more likely to consider bike seats and trailers? That's certainly been my perception from nursery etc
"Here's an interesting point though - are 'older' parents more likely to consider bike seats and trailers? That's certainly been my perception from nursery etc"
The answer is yes.
BUT
There are many variable reasons.
The following is a GROSS generalisation.
'Older' parents (eg nearer 30 than 20) - especially first time - are more likely to have 'thought' more, acquired more - house, car, disposable income (or not!)
It's all 'cultural', 'societal' etc. anyone who can afford to own/run a car isn't entirely poor and could (be expected to be able to) afford a bike/seat. But they might not think able to as well as a car.
Might consider that a bike is a sign of poverty (discussions on 'why cycling is middle class' etc. etc. - or perhaps, in a nursery context, "older"!)
Just seeing more people cycling will change things. But there must be plenty of nurseries where no-one arrives by bike.
People like that young mum are one of the reasons why motor traffic in Glasgow is soaring to record highs...
Remember it's a city where half the households have no access to a car.
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23/01/2017, 15:32
Jan 24-28 Briefings/drop-ins on @NewForthBridge @FRC_Queensferry + roads + (?)cycleroutes --> http://www.transport.gov.scot/project/forth-replacement-crossing/contact-and-education-centre @transcotland @VeloFife
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There's nothing cycle-related about the 1.3 billion pound Queensferry Crossing project.
Zero. zilch, nada.
If anyone has the stomach to tell the blank-faced reps first hand, i'm sure they'll 'get back to you on that'.
Bax, there's plenty cycle related, such as the addition of 7 toucan crossings on the previously in obstructed route from the bridge to Rosyth. Or the unnecessary loop round the back of the bus stop at ferrytoll.
Other than the pavement up Castlandhill road I'm struggling for anything which could be called an improvement though.
Very droll, acsimpson.
@ac
The new pavement up Castlandhill Road is a footway only, and is not intended for shared use. Officially.
I was speechless to find that to be the case.
What that really means to me is - yeah sure, the usual pavement cycling weirdos can use it unofficially, but don't expect dropped kerbs at the top of the hill or right of way at side junctions or anything like that, cos its only a footway.
@bax, You're right I was probably being a little over generous in my optimism yesterday. The fact they didn (thankfully) put a cyclists dismount sign at the start of the pavement shows exactly how many cyclists their model showed using it (I'm fairly sure their model didn't even have a cycling variable never mind output). They have (of course) ensured that the surface is sufficiently poorly laid that no one is likely to use it going downhill.
Ignoring the fact that for less than the cost of a rounding error they could have included world class cycle provision into Ferrytoll junction it's the two stage toucans which really piss me off. Why they think it's appropriate to stop the off slip of a motorway in two stages in order to inconvenience anyone not worshipping at the throne of fuel duty is beyond me.
I dread to think how unpleasant this roundabout will be once it is finished and the current safely coned areas are in use. My only remaining hope is that it might be possible with a concerted campaign to encourage Amey to open the west cycle lane of the FRB on a regular basis, thus providing a route to Rosyth that avoids Ferrytoll entirely.
I dread to think how unpleasant this roundabout will be once it is finished
puzzling over it myself.. its a three lane monster.
logic says take the middle lane.
realism says - do it one handed, and wave a big chain around over your head with the free hand.
It's not the actual navigation that bothers me (yet) coming southbound as it's easy enough to approach on the B981. Coming northbound however you can currently cross the slip road as it is just one lane of traffic. Post works however the slip road looks like it will be at least 2 and possibly 3 lanes, one of which will be a segregated wide radius full priority lane from Inverkeithing which wont be possible to cross safely if there are any motor vehicles around. By the time you have gone round the corner to Inverkeithing to try and access the roundabout it's just the 7 toucans left to get in your way as you have already done the diversion.
Michael Martin, project director of Forth Crossing Bridge Constructors, said
Its great driving a big motor, innit? We all laaahve it.
Transport Scotland project director David Climie added
Spot on, Mikey boy! Thats aw that counts. Keep on truckin'
Do you have a link to the plans for this?
Frenchy, there's a table of detailed PDFs somewhere but i can't locate them anymore
http://www.transport.gov.scot/project/forth-replacement-crossing/maps
this isn't it either but has various plans
http://www.transport.gov.scot/project/forth-replacement-crossing/frc-construction-plans
a great quote in the Green Travel Plan from that previous link
Although there are unquestionable economic, environmental and social benefits from both cycling and walking, it unfortunately serves very little benefit to promote these methods.
i kid you not, it really does say that in black & white
http://www.transport.gov.scot/system/files/documents/tsc-basic-pages/FRC_12.pdf
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However, Mr Brown would not be drawn on reports that contractors had asked for the completion date to be extended to September.
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Indeed When one finds oneself forced to ride cyclocross then one has to move the barriers which separate the cyclocross track from the crowds in order to make a gap for oneself to leave said track and access the road it in a fashion even remotely close to being as convenient as it was before the motorist party spent 1.5 Billion making life as awkward as possible for anyone not belching toxic fumes out their rear end.
They're just trying to optimise the weather conditions for the Aberfeldy round trip.
An insider source tells me it has nothing to do with adverse weather conditions and is everything to do with the fact that bits don't fit together properly when trying to match them up.
its got little to do with the weather or crane removal - the roads infrastructure north side is nowhere near ready
I get that politicians gotta politic: but do they really think that we believe that the work would have gone any differently if a different lot had been in charge?
What parts of the road infrastructure at the North side won't be ready for May? I think a lot of it looks unfinished, but surely that's kinda the point - they can't finish it until the bridge is open and traffic is flowing to a different bridge. Right?
struggling to find a decent webcam image for you jonty
but if you check this
the area to the left of the image, the new motorway connector to the bridge from the existing A90, that's nowhere near ready and won't be done and dusted in a matter of weeks.
which i have no real issue with - despite using this area daily, the new bridge certainly isn't for my benefit.
but facts is facts
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