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Mad ideas for Roseburn Tce
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Posted 7 years ago #
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If trompe l'oeil and optical illusion are permitted then an Ames room arrangement whereby the bicycle track looks tiny but is over three metres wide whilst the loading bays look enormous but are really tiny would keep the shopkeeps happy.
Posted 7 years ago # -
A canal that's downhill, you say?
http://www.westland.net/expo67/map-docs/images/laronde12.jpg
Posted 7 years ago # -
The Union canal is downhill from Falkirk to Edinburgh. Cycle it and tell me it ain't so.
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Much of Scotland is downhill from west to east, so maybe there is an incline? Contour canal follows the contour so no need for locks and some need for aqueducts and the Falkirk wheel. Could still be downhill a bit? There is a slight west east current most days presumably linked to the wind. Water leaks out occasionally after big rainfall? From slateford aqueduct. Does it ever get topped up?
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I'm sure Kaputnik will know better but I think there is a lochan a few miles from Edinburgh that keeps the whole thing at a (fairly) stable level and it does run down hill and out the system at Lochrin thus not stagnant.
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Interestingly enough the water level in the canal is maintained by a feeder system starting with a reservoir in the Pentland Hills to the south, but including a three mile channel from the River Almond at Mid Calder to the canal close to the Lin's Mill Aqueduct.
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so no need for locks and some need for aqueducts and the Falkirk wheel
The wheel replaced a set of locks, but the locks were to connect 2 different canals (Forth & Clyde and the Union) rather than to get 1 canal over a hill.
According to Wikipedia, it took 3,500 tons of water and nearly a whole day to complete a run through the lock system (a 35m drop/rise).
Posted 7 years ago # -
Question for the hive mind.
If you wanted to prioritise bus travel through Roseburn over all else, what would you do?
Obviously that Chinese traffic straddling bus, but anything slightly more practical?
Posted 7 years ago # -
Get non-bus motor vehicles out of the buses' way?
Posted 7 years ago # -
Ban loading; have a dedicated traffic warden who would police this (or even better CCTV) so that people popping in for bacon rolls or whatever can't. (This is the problem outside the Co-op/Greggs in Gorgie, people just popping in for something.)
Does Roseburn have red lines by the side of the road, rather than yellow ones?
Posted 7 years ago # -
Join all the buses together. Then run them on a special low-friction metal surface. Add lots of doors so people can get on and off quickly. Then attach some electric wires overhead to keep them clean.
One could even call it a...
<whispers>
tram.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@Hankchief
Put the price of driving on Roseburn Terrace up until demand for driving space exactly matches the space available? I think that's the dominant resource allocation paradigm in our society so there should be no objections.
Posted 7 years ago # -
This oughtha fit down the middle of the Terrace.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Something like this, perhaps?
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Not forgetting the classic -
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Ah. Forgot this wasn't the sensible thread. A pair of cranes: buses drive onto platforms at each end and are then hoicked over the traffic to the other end of the terrace, handily counterbalancing each other. It could be a lucrative engineering-marvel tourist attraction like the Falkirk Wheel, except without any car parking and no bike path going right beside it.
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"Forgot this wasn't the sensible thread."
Ah, so did I slightly.
Then again 'Roseburn isn't the Netherlands'.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Hankchief - I would instigate a tidal flow system. There would be three traffic lanes - one bus lane would be operational into/out of town at the morning/evening peak. Two, general traffic lanes would be operational at all times - controlled by electronic signal gantries/rising bollards, so people knew which lanes were which.
Loading/parking would be allowed outside of peak periods.
Or, you could just ban loading/parking completely in peak hours and save the expense.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@wingpig what you are referring to is basically a transporter bridge e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tees_Transporter_Bridge
Posted 7 years ago # -
@kaputnik Almost, but paired for simultaneous two-way travel and with greater vertical hoickage to clear the static private motor cars and legitimately-parked bacon-procurement vehicles at ground level.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Widen the pavements and put in a big wide segregated cycle lane. Put bollards along the length so no vehicles can get on the pavement / cycleway.
Remove all lane markings and all parking restrictions from the remaining space and just let the traffic sort itself out (LOL).
Buses can have battering rams fitted to the front to clear away any cars as required.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Relocate all the shops from the south side of Roseburn Terrace to Roseburn Place. Make Roseburn Place a do-what-the-hell-you-want zone for cars.
Posted 7 years ago # -
cb if you relocate the shops from the North side instead then you would remove the need for pedestrians to cross the road as they could just walk round the block. You could then move all remaining access to the building on the north side to the rear of the properties and replace the pavement on the north side with a cycle path. The parking/loading lane could become a 24 hour bus lane.
Perhaps Traffic coming out of Russell Road should use the lane behind Tesco. I'm sure the local councillors will approve.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Alternatively The Lodge of Brotherly Love could be approached to see if they fancy having their building replace by vehicle access to a new car park in the back greens of Roseburn Terrace.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Sneak footage of early testing on The Vision.
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This drifts off-topic a bit towards the end and has a nice few paragraphs about traffic-calming and congestion-easing through road-unlabelling:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/crash-how-computers-are-setting-us-up-disaster
Posted 7 years ago # -
Call the dogs off. Cycle track redundant.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Thank link should carry a health warning. It's on the Daily Fail site.
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