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"Ministers drive to boost cycling backfires after rates fall"

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Onward and upward motor culture facilitated by bridge/road building.

    Some resistance in Edinburgh.

    Future depends on whether 'young people' have car-cash after paying rent and financing (electronic) mobile device use.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Cycling has decreased due to to the spate of deeply unpopular people taking up cycling.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    "whether 'young people' have car-cash after paying rent and financing (electronic) mobile device use."

    Anecdotal evidence suggests once earnings reach a certain level that is the case. Drivers round my way seem to be getting younger (or I'm getting older, or both).

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    Meanwhile the minister has just been looking over the £41m spent on the Edinburgh Gateway rail/tram station...

    That's the same as the entire Active Travel budget...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    That's the same as the entire Active Travel budget...

    I despair. Heid in hands stuff.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. gibbo
    Member

    @Min

    "You have to not be put off by verbal abuse"

    Despite doing less cycling than the last few years, I've had more drivers shout abuse at me for not riding tight to the left this year than last 3 years put together.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. Min
    Member

    Gibbo - I believe it is getting worse too.

    IWRATS Clearly I haven't been paying attention....never noticed much more than indifference and I'm in my thirtieth year of city cycling.

    Off the bike too? You have never read hysterical media ranting? Never had anyone have a go at you about how all cyclists run red lights and ride on the pavement when they find out you cycle? You must be one scary dude!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    You must be one scary dude!

    I did once have a lady spontaneously run away from me - she only heard me at the last minute as I approached from behind in a snow storm, minding my own business. She had a hood up, heard me as I was on her shoulder, looked round in horror and took off down the road as fast as she could on her high heels. Very embarassing but what can you do?

    Last random abuse was someone who threw a cake at me out of a moving car, but I was a pedestrian at the time. Bullseye too.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. jdanielp
    Member

    @IWRATS what kind of cake?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. dougal
    Member

    I'm sure he said it was Bullseye Cake?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @jdanieldp

    It was some kind of iced fairy cake with cream. Individual sized, so just right as an improvised missile. A Dundee cake would have been dangerous, a wedding cake surreal.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    "It was some kind of iced fairy cake with cream."

    Even the improvised missile throwers are "on trend" it would appear.

    "That's the same as the entire Active Travel budget..."

    All that money just so folk from Fife don't have to pay for long term parking at the airport. Might take a few cars off the M90/A90 I suppose.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. Frenchy
    Member

    I've only ever had eggs thrown at me, perhaps the rest of the ingredients will come later?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    There's a bit in Gormenghast where Swelter, the vile chef, threatens the heroes by leaving an ever more elaborate cake one step higher on the stairs up to their hiding place each night. It's one of my favourite ever literary devices.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. Rob
    Member

    "Problem is number of people who 'believe' they can't and so 'must drive'."

    I think driving has been made so easy it has become the default. People need a reason not to drive before even considering something else. For me, that reason was the absence of parking at a new job.

    "Bring on local elections..."

    I haven't paid any attention to local politics until recently. When choosing how to vote, should I be looking at the individual or the party policies?

    The recent Bearsway decision is the first council level result I've ever looked at. As in this case, do councilors typically vote the same as the other councilors in their party? Are the councilors deciding between themselves or does someone else guide their voting?

    I'd be pretty miffed right now if I'd voted for an East Dunbartonshire SNP councilor based on their pro-cycling leanings.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. acsimpson
    Member

    Rob, I'm no expert. I think most parties have an element of block voting depending on the policy. From what I can tell though the SNP are the worst offenders with policies seemingly dictated from high levels and very little choice or imagination at the lower levels.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Here's the solution: have a conference about it.

    https://www.holyrood.com/event/enabling-active-travel

    "
    Promoting active travel has been outlined as a priority in the latest Programme for Government, with a continued aim to ensure 10% of everyday journeys are made by bike by 2020, and the further support for walking and cycling infrastructure and a people-centred approach to place.
    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    @acsimpson, unfortunately I have to agree. If you look at the voting record on Edinburgh Council, SNP often vote as one bloc, especially when an issue is 'contentious'. See the Roseburn-Leith cycle route vote for example. Also see what happened to 'independent thinker' Cllr Orr when viewed as 'disloyal' by fellow SNP councillors...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. gibbo
    Member

    "
    Promoting active travel has been outlined as a priority in the latest Programme for Government, with a continued aim to ensure 10% of everyday journeys are made by bike by 2020, and the further support for walking and cycling infrastructure and a people-centred approach to place.
    "

    By 2020? That's optimistic.

    I take it they still believe they can do that by spending 1.9% of the travel budget on active travel.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    Not sure this will be delivered -

    "

    Join this event to gain an up to date brief on Scottish policy to enable active travel, and examine how your organisation can learn from good practice in both planning and community engagement.

    "

    No keynote speech from government minister.

    Would have been better to start with Sally!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. ih
    Member

    Who is this conference aimed at?
    Will any decision makers be there?
    Sally only given 30 minutes at the end! Is this tokenism?
    So much talk of "place" and then in the few examples of when planners try to enhance "place", it is fought tooth and nail by reactionaries who just want the status quo but with added cars.

    I'm beginning to feel that campaigning should consist mainly of showing videos of Dutch infrastructure to decision makers, with the strapline that this is the only way you will achieve your targets.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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