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Easter Road/Carrington consultation

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  1. crowriver
    Member

    Aye everything's on hold because CEC got a big grant for a route up the Mound.

    More than a bit disappointing that improvements which have been on hold for 18 months already are to be postponed/mothballed for an as yet unspecified period.

    Meanwhile full steam ahead for Picardy Place, where of course the design work is being carried out by the developers...

    I understand the staff shortages issue but this is about priorities: it seems that big projects and big money talks at CEC.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  2. dougal
    Member

    Maybe they'd save money if they had fewer fake consultations?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    “I understand the staff shortages issue”

    To some extent that’s self-inflicted and lack of planning. Very clear more staff are NEEDED.

    AND there’s a Cycle Budget AND cycling meant be a CEC priority.

    “but this is about priorities: it seems that big projects and big money talks at CEC”

    Yep.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  4. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "Maybe they'd save money if they had fewer fake consultations?"

    This x1000

    I include the cycling ones in this as well as Picardy

    Posted 8 months ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    Carrington Rd doesn’t need expensive crazy segregated lanes, it just needs filtered. End of.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    Fake consultations maybe? Or stages of consultations to thwart the objections when they are lodged upon announcement that the changes are being made.? One reason Skelf went ahead was the extensive consultations over a number of yeas

    Posted 8 months ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    "stages of consultations to thwart the objections when they are lodged upon announcement that the changes are being made"

    This.

    If it works for Picardy Place...

    Posted 8 months ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    Could this be a new perpetual consultation-feedback loop? Council wins funding for new scheme, launches consultation, analyses feedback, wins funding for new scheme, abandons first scheme due to lack of staff, launches consultation, analyses feedback...

    Posted 8 months ago #
  9. jonty
    Member

    Weren't the schemes being developed by external consultants anyway?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. Klaxon
    Member

    Correctly consulting is important, as it will shape a scheme and reduce objections.

    I didn't like many/any of the small interventions, they were the sort of crap that might have been built in the 90s like the Roseburn corner cut-off. However one must be pragmatic, sometimes there's budget for tinkering, and stuff like Easter Rd could have been built in no time at all after go-ahead. None of these schemes were major enough to warrant anything more than a consult - revise - statutory process - build cycle.

    Running consultations to waste time / budget, as these seem to have been in hindsight, could lead to increased consultation fatigue and mistrust in the system.

    Hopefully the refocus on major projects is real and it will be a much better way of spending money.

    Weren't the schemes being developed by external consultants anyway?

    Exactly - they were all AECOM. This isn't a council headcount matter. They were just bunged enough cash to launch the projects then abandoned.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. McD
    Member

    I've updated a copy of the Active Travel Capital Projects Status report October 2017 to show in red the delayed projects that I'm aware of. Are there any others?

    Posted 8 months ago #

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