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"Mayhem" (the new word for chaos) + added “shambles”
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Posted 4 years ago #
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IIRC the real shambles, with blood running in the streets, used to be off Market Street, where Waverley station car park and council HQ are now. I'm sure someone can find the pre-railways map online...
Posted 4 years ago # -
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Residents fear the destruction of habitats for turtle doves and purple emperor butterflies, as well as traffic chaos, with enough houses planned to accommodate a town the size of Dover.
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Posted 2 years ago # -
Today is the first day of a three week closure of Drum Street southbound for gasworks, so there are currently traffic jams on Old Dalkeith Road, Newtoft Street, Ferniehill Drive, Gilmerton Road etc.
I walked from Old Dalkeith Road to Gilmerton crossroads, and counted the number of vehicles heading west.
I counted 111 single-occupant vehicles (mostly cars, maybe 10 vans), 45 multiple-occupant private vehicles (almost all cars, one ambulance and a handful of vans), and one bus (one passenger). No cyclists, maybe 10 pedestrians.
70% single-occupant vehicles.
The entire traffic jam would have simply disappeared if the single-occupant drivers were walking, cycling or using public transport.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Quite the commute last night. Took short route (Crewe Toll > Dalkeith via city centre). Malfunctioning temporary lights just after Dean Br leading to traffic going opposite directions trying to use the Northbound side of the road at the same time. Backed up up to Lothian Road bit it did make Lothian Rd nicer to ride to Melville Dr as a lot of the traffic that would usually occupy it was stuck on the Dean Br impasse.
Unusually jammed between Gilmerton and Dobbies - car transporter on fire on the Bypass and traffic diverted. Wandered across field next to A772 to have a look. Looked full of presumably new cars, likely heading to the Fort. An expensive day for their insurer. Despite arguments elsewhere about the extent to which driving is necessary,still a bloody waste of resources for something with a 20 year lifespan to go up in smoke before even being used!
Posted 1 year ago # -
I had the foresight to look on Google's traffic map before riding home yesterday. There were delays all over the place.
I really didn't fancy getting stuck in Big Traffic, in pouring rain, for minutes on end again at the Myreside roadworks, so I diverted through Morningside and then discovered it was nose to tail all the way up towards Greenbank. Fairmilehead was also very busy, and the A720 a glorious Los Angeles-style snake of white and red lights in the dark.
Posted 1 year ago # -
@arrelcat - I must remember to exercise the same foresight!
Posted 1 year ago # -
The torpedo is poor for filtering safely in traffic, and often poor for filtering at all, so I spend excessive amounts of time thinking like a car driver who additionally has to factor in distance and gradients. It's designed for long, flat, unbroken fietspads, not the ruinously tiring stop-start sprints between semi-permanent roadworks, nor the cratered gullies of Comiston Road cycle infrastructure awash with rain and leaf mulch.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Do not go down to muirhouse today in a car. The flood waters are lapping beneath the Red Bridge
Bikes can get through
Posted 1 year ago # -
Malfunctioning temporary lights just after Dean Br leading to traffic going opposite directions trying to use the Northbound side of the road at the same time.
There were reports of buses running over an hour late due to the mess on Queensferry Street and the overspill on to the surrounding streets. Trams were terminating at West End.
Posted 1 year ago # -
This resurfacing exercise seems definitely to be dragging on for ages. We were still in the Elizabethan era when they started (and quickly stopped so the cortège could pass unhindered).
Posted 1 year ago # -
Wow, and I thought I had problems getting through the city centre by train yesterday... I did wonder if I should have got off the train at Haymarket and cycled to Waverly, but maybe it is just as well that I did not...
There were a lot of problems due to a broken down train this morning, but my failure to get from Livingston South to the office in an efficient manner was entirely self-inflicted.
Posted 1 year ago # -
@edinburgh87 possibly an EV fire? Same thing sank a large shop earlier in year.
Car transporter fire on bypass
@Arellcat - velomobile acqua-fun (or not!). Faster than many buses though as reported by @ejstubbs .
@fimm - train should avoid city Mayhem but just heard from @Dave on Mastodon that Easy Coast closed between Dunbar and Renton. He is heading to London. Airport still open though.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Every chance, it looked like it started on a vehicle towards the back as the cab and cars loaded near the front looked untouched.
Posted 1 year ago # -
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Reporting the traffic chaos on Twitter, Edinburgh Travel News said: “Traffic's really busy right across Edinburgh and as you might reasonably expect, retail areas are particularly popular.
Unless you're walking or cycling, your journey will almost certainly take longer than usual today.”
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Posted 1 year ago # -
Unless you're walking or cycling, your journey will almost certainly take longer than usual today.”
Something must be done! </s>
Posted 1 year ago # -
“Something must be done!“
Ironically, an arm of CEC putting these words on Twitter is progress!
Not that it will make many people (any?) rethink their travel options!
Posted 1 year ago # -
We should all steal some cars and then park them in the way across the city every day creating gridlock chaos everyday
Then modal shift will happen
As the intermittent journey that goes smoothly is the strongest reinforcer.
Needs to be constant gridlock for change to occur
Posted 1 year ago # -
“Needs to be constant gridlock for change to occur“
You being ironic or logical?
Unfortunately logic is not enough.
Plenty cities have much more gridlock than Ed.
Needs actual measures to reduce traffic including closing roads, reallocating roadspace, increasing car storage charges, charging for entering the City, etc.
MOST IMPORTANT
Finding bolder politicians - CEC & SG who don’t just think ‘motorists are voters’, ‘driving is normal, it’ll be fine when everything is electric’ etc.
ALSO
Can’t wait for ‘carrots’ - more trams, enforced buslanes, more cycle infrastructure.
Posted 1 year ago # -
"Unless you're walking or cycling, your journey will almost certainly take longer than usual today.”
Even cycling, my journey took longer yesterday - took at least a few seconds longer to filter past the gridlock from Charlotte Sq (queue stretched back onto Queen St) and up Lothian Rd.
Roadworks on Lothian Rd instead of double parked delivery vehicles outside the rubbish kebab shop were the proximate cause (along with an insane number of vehicles).
Posted 1 year ago # -
‘Tis the season to be joyful that I live in the sticks. I had to negotiate some cow poo on the back road today.
Posted 1 year ago #
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