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Sheriffhall Roundabout consultation etc.

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Thanks

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Council leaders from across south-east Scotland are growing increasingly frustrated at delays to the upgrade of Sheriffhall roundabout – which is set to cost “considerably more” than the original £120m price tag.

    It comes eight months after an independent report on the controversial project was completed.

    Transport Scotland’s Gavin Dyet said costs would be updated soon and would be subject to “annual budget scrutiny”.

    He gave the committee assurances the Scottish Government remained “committed” to the project.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council-leaders-grow-impatient-over-roundabout-upgrade-delays-4660447

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    The project was included in the Edinburgh city region deal agreed in 2018 and funded by the UK and Scottish governments, but work has not yet started.

    Supporters say the upgrade - priced at £120m in 2018 - is essential to tackle worsening congestion at one of the busiest roundabouts on the Edinburgh City Bypass, but critics including the Greens claim it would create a "spaghetti junction" and generate even more traffic.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-sheriffhall-roundabout-upgrade-branded-a-dinosaur-project-4945249

    https://archive.ph/lzpo9

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Upgrading Edinburgh's Sheriffhall roundabout is likely to cost up to two and a half times the original budget,an MSP has predicted as he accused the Scottish Government of "dither and delay" over the project.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-sheriffhall-junction-cost-of-flyover-could-now-been-two-and-a-half-times-original-estimate-claims-msp-5173114

    Posted 11 months ago #
  5. acsimpson
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    I'm not sure why I clicked the bait to confirm that this was indeed Miles Briggs. In what sane world is a 150% budget increase before the first spade hits the ground seem as a reason to prioritise a project.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Project manager and engineer Gavin Dyet, who directs design and promotion of the scheme, represented Transport Scotland to the Edinburgh and South East Scotland City Region Joint Deal committee on Friday.

    He said Scottish transport secretary Fiona Hyslop “realised it was a priority scheme for partners”, and that the Scottish Government was committed to it.

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/frustration-over-sheriffhall-flyover-scottish-32424249?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

    Posted 8 months ago #
  7. chdot
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  8. chdot
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    Ministers still waiting for advice from officials two-and-a-half years after report

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-roads-no-go-ahead-for-sheriffhall-flyover-until-after-election-6034829?ref=edinburghminute.com

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. Morningsider
    Member

    Nope - that's nonsense. Ministers make the final decision on whether a trunk road scheme goes ahead. When there has been a public inquiry into a proposals, the Reporter chairing the inquiry produces a report with reccomendations for Ministers. There are two options available to Ministers (1) agree with the Reporter, or (2) disagree with the Reporter.

    (1) is easy. The decision could be made in a few days, all civil servants need to do is draft a letter that states Ministers agree with the reporter and the scheme can go ahead/is refused for the reasons set out in the Report.

    (2) is a bit harder. Ministers need to explain why they are rejecting the Reporter's recommendations. Minister's decision could be subject to legal challenge. However, Minister's reasons simply need to be "rational" to resist challange (i.e. meet the requirements of the "Wednesbury rules"). This could be something as simple as arguing the Reporter has given insufficient weight to the wider economic benefits of a scheme. This would need technical and legal input - could take a couple of months, but I can see no justification for two and a half years.

    I suspect the real reason is both practical, there isn't enogh money to do this, and political, any decision will annoy a large group of voters - where pro or anti the scheme.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    A better Sheriffhall Roundabout.

    Today, I had the absolute pleasure of catching up with some of my former Civil Engineering students at Heriot-Watt University, and what they’ve achieved genuinely blew me away.

    1/3

    https://bsky.app/profile/drscottarthurmp.bsky.social/post/3mihi5uhvds2q

    (Presume ‘April Fool’)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    Very thoughtful of them to include a cemetery next to the junction

    70mph head-on smash anyone?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    The government may already have an AI system that could respond to a rise in AI-generated objections. It has launched an AI tool called Consult, which analyses responses to public consultations.

    It did so in the expectation that “widespread adoption of large language models [such as that used by Objector] will likely only increase the number of responses that consultations attract”.

    Paul Smith, the managing director of Strategic Land Group, a consultancy, this month reported on the rising use of AI by people to oppose planning applications.

    “AI objections undermine the whole rationale for public consultation,” he wrote in Building magazine. “Local communities, we are told, know their areas best … So, we should ask them what they think.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/09/ai-powered-nimbyism-could-grind-uk-planning-system-to-a-halt-experts-warn

    Posted 1 month ago #

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