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Granton Harbour Masterplan

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  1. Klaxon
    Member

    I wish the press, when reporting on planning matters, would put the references in a footnote. It makes looking for the real story much harder.

    16/05618/AMC - Granton Harbour redevelopment masterplan - was approved on Thursday

    There is a raft of conditions, the most notable of which is (9) the provision of a 5 metre shared use path along Lower Granton Road with pedestrian and cycle priority over side roads.

    Reported in the Herald is a 'clash over tram proposals' - rather - it's a footnote saying the approved masterplan doesn't properly consider interactions with the tram route and these concerns should be addressed in future individual planning applications.

    Will this masterplan be built, or forgotten to time like most of them? Just need to wait and see...

    Posted 7 years ago #

  2. dougal
    Member

    I would generalise that to: "I wish the press when reporting on planning matters would put the references in a footnote".

    Posted 7 years ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

    "

    DEVELOPERS behind proposals to regenerate Granton with a marina, 2000 homes and a hotel have been told to amend the plans because of a potential conflict with the tram extension.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/warning-of-potential-clash-between-tram-extension-and-granton-marina-development-1-4359820

    Posted 7 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/granton/work-could-begin-on-granton-marina-by-end-of-the-year-1-4424953

    Posted 7 years ago #

  5. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Jersey-based Granton Central Development’s harbour plans include a 300-berth marina and 2000 new homes as well as a hotel and shops.

    Hailed as “the focal point” of Granton’s regeneration, Edinburgh Marina will become the first new marina next to a 
capital city in Europe for 
decades.

    Work is expected to start this year and could be completed by 2019. Plans include a new sea wall while the firm predicts 900 permanent jobs and a boost to the Capital’s economy.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/marina-businessman-sues-yacht-club-for-defamation-1-4565399

    Posted 7 years ago #

  6. chdot
    Admin

    “

    WITH its own bistro, sauna and private cinema, a new retirement village coming to Edinburgh could be the city’s most luxurious.

    The 104-home development on the Granton waterfront will also include a library, landscaped gardens and a 24-hour concierge service for residents.

    “

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/luxury-retirement-village-with-bistro-and-cinema-coming-to-edinburgh-1-4656677

    Posted 6 years ago #

  7. amir
    Member

    Sounds like the landscape for a JG Ballard novel

    Posted 6 years ago #

  8. crowriver
    Member

    Hahaha! Very droll.

    Vermilion Sands springs to mind...

    Posted 6 years ago #

  9. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/business/calls-for-granton-development-to-be-better-than-dundee-s-v-a-1-4848657

    Posted 5 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    https://twitter.com/cllrwhyte/status/1078228199220367360?s=21

    Posted 5 years ago #

  11. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/help-us-make-a-big-splash-on-granton-waterfront-1-4856740

    Posted 5 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    “

    That decision, made by the Scottish Government reporter Andrew Fleming in August 2019, was appealed by the council in the hope of allowing the council to draw up a renewed agreement around developer contributions to force the developers to hand over more cash to pay for infrastructure connected to the development.

    “
    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/council-loses-edinburgh-marina-court-battle-and-could-be-forced-pay-hundreds-thousands-expenses-2539624

    Looks like CEC took a big gamble and lost.

    Now likely to be even more wary of refusing planning permissions.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  13. gembo
    Member

    Yes pity the Scottish govt always sides with developers and has no desire to make developers put in infra

    Posted 4 years ago #

  14. Tulyar
    Member

    Perhaps too late to note that Granton (the original train ferry terminus for the rail services to Fife via Burntislabd) would be just a 15 minute boat trip from access to golf courses North of the Forth, essentially cutting the journey times to Kirkcaldy from Edinburgh by 60-70%.

    This can be tested by chartering the old Redjet 3 ferry - being replaced by Redjet 7 and certificated to operate in estuarial waters extending to a line between Kirkcaldy and Portobello. At speeds of c 35Kts these boats cover the 11 Nm between Southampton & Cowes in c.25 minutes. The short crossing has a rail station directly by the site at Burntisland, and will have a tram link at Granton/Newhaven

    Posted 4 years ago #

  15. chdot
    Admin

    “Perhaps too late to note”

    No, but doesn’t seem that CEC, FC, TS, SEStran etc. etc. are looking into this possibility.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  16. Tulyar
    Member

    This I think could radically impact on some traffic flows via the M90 at peak times - as @chdot has a particular awareness of this in terms of journey times and related actual/perceived issues I'm wondering if a trial might be a post COVID action to balance removal of on street parking- which by observation of its absence, seems to be filled by people outside Edinburgh driving in several (including the former CMO doing so from Fife)

    I am advised though that Forth Ports might stick a spanner in the works, through their control of currently available piers & tidal berths. Any leads on that?

    Instead of operating between a bus depot in Kirkcaldy and one in near Portobello the route, at half the distance, it has a railway station at one end, and a tram, plenty of buses, & bikes (plus a lot of taxis passing) at the other.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  17. chdot
    Admin

    “I am advised though that Forth Ports might stick a spanner in the works”

    That would be normal behaviour.

    They can get away with all sorts (including the need for planning permission in some cases) as they are a “statutory undertaker”.

    Posted 4 years ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

    HOWEVER

    FP has been involved in trying -

    “

    1.2 The applicant, Forth Ports, seeks a Certificate of Lawfulness (proposed) for the formalisation of car parking arrangements on operational land which is an integral part of the proposal to operate a Cross Forth Ferry Service between Burntisland and Granton. The proposed Cross Forth development will provide berthing arrangements for the ferry, a bus turning circle and formalisation of the existing car parking arrangements, to provide up to 131 car parking spaces.

    “

    https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=M86KA1HFT8000

    Don’t know who operator was or why it didn’t happen.

    UPDATE

    I now know the who -

    https://www.orcadian.co.uk/pentland-ferries-moves-forth-with-possible-new-venture/

    Posted 4 years ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heritage-and-retro/retro/17-memories-edinburghs-granton-district-down-decades-2668061

    (Includes bicycles)

    Posted 4 years ago #

  20. chdot
    Admin

    https://twitter.com/adamrmcvey/status/1305868856007720961

    Posted 4 years ago #

  21. gembo
    Member

    Can’t get that link to open, bit like grant on harbour master plan struggling to open as an actual. Thing

    Posted 4 years ago #

  22. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "The image you've tweeted is of Western Harbour in Leith, not Granton. Getting your masterplans mixed up maybe?" Arf!

    Posted 4 years ago #

  23. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/chancellor-rishi-sunak-announces-ps165-million-for-granton-waterfront-regeneration-3435232

    Posted 3 years ago #

  24. Frenchy
    Member

    IF ANY of it happens increases chance of a tram line along Roseburn Corridor…

    A wee birdie tells me this option is no longer being seriously considered. Still time for it to be reconsidered, of course.

    Posted 2 years ago #

  25. chdot
    Admin

    @ Frenchy

    Sorry I deleted my post while you were replying, realised it was probably better here -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19287#post-362223

    Well questions are -

    Is a line to Granton still being considered? Is the intention to go via WGH?

    Posted 2 years ago #

  26. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/edinburgh-gasholder-park-work-set-to-start-on-new-waterfront-attraction-and-events-arena-in-granton-3909272

    Posted 2 years ago #

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