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Morrison Street

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  • Started 7 years ago by jules878
  • Latest reply from CycleAlex

  1. jules878
    Member

    I've been away for a week and on my return I discover that one of 3 lanes of traffic and the cycle Lane have been absorbed into the Haymarket "car park" building site.

    I already felt vulnerable enough heading down there with cars whizzing past on both sides, but my first experience of the two lane set up yesterday was decidedly scary.

    How long will this street be like this? There's no sensible alternative route for cyclists.

    Apols if I've missed discussion on other thread. Not been paying attention for a couple of weeks.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  2. SRD
    Moderator

    is this the lane that was meant to be a pedestrian walkway?

    http://www.livingstreetsedinburgh.org.uk/2017/02/07/pedestrian-group-hits-out-at-new-edinburgh-danger/

    Posted 7 years ago #

  3. jules878
    Member

    You have reminded me that there were two people were walking down the road.

    Not sure if there was space for them inside the fence, but presumably not if walking on the road.

    So one pavement, one cycle Lane and three "car" lanes now reduced to two lanes of traffic.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  4. Stickman
    Member

    So one pavement, one cycle Lane and three "car" lanes now reduced to two lanes of traffic.

    Still space for parking/loading on the north side though.

    Sigh.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  5. fimm
    Member

    Yes, I came through there yesterday quite late when there was not much traffic about and thought "that's going to be fun when it is busy". I'm going to just take the lane. Yes, there will be impatient drivers on my tail. They can wait. No, it isn't going to be pleasant.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  6. Klaxon
    Member

    If they want to maintain 2 lanes of traffic they should be suspending the parking bays to do so, and have 2 narrow lanes. Signpost that HGVs and other wide vehicles are to straddle both.

    No excuse to not be providing for pedestrians with a road that wide. Not one.

    By way of an exemplar comparison, the Haddington Place worksite ran by Ogilvie had zero pedestrian/construction interaction and they never closed the pavement. It was very well ran throughout the whole build, hats off.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  7. jules878
    Member

    Update. Until mid/late March. Looks like it'll be worse from next week.

    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/829977887814144000

    Posted 7 years ago #

  8. Klaxon
    Member

    This was originally advertised a year ago, presumably the closure can be put in place at will

    https://twitter.com/fountainbridge/status/699670519092813825

    @edintravel (a council account) reassured:
    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/720944279531692033

    Hi Paul. I believe the nearside lane of Morrison St will be closed to accommodate a temporary walkway. ^J

    Which they did provide when they did the same closure last May
    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9461616,-3.2145535,3a,75y,284.3h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sx41d1vJbSsVHWo0pcQefFw!2e0!5s20160501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

    Posted 7 years ago #

  9. Rosie
    Member

    Morrison Street has become a no-go zone for me. Even at lunchtime it was a hideous experience.

    So - commuting from Fountainbridge - don't cycle along Fountainbridge because there are trenches dug along it in readiness for World War I.

    Morrison Street - death alley.

    So now it's a turn along Grove Street, Upper Grove Place and all its contours, down the 180 degree zigs & zags to Morrison Crescent, turn along U shaped route to Dalry Place (blocked by cars 3/4 of the time of the time), on to Dalry Road, then turn into Haymarket.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  10. Frenchy
    Member

    @Rosie - is Melvin Walk (opposite Gilmore Park) still closed?

    Posted 7 years ago #

  11. Rosie
    Member

    @Frenchy - don't know. Will check. It wasn't actually closed, only turned into one pedestrian wide corridor.

    Melvin Walk could do with dropped kerbs.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  12. Frenchy
    Member

    Thanks - would be a shorter route than the detour round Upper Grove Place.

    There used to be some tar in the gutter as a wee ramp in place of a dropped kerb - it's maybe gone by now though, and dropped kerbs would obviously be preferable.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  13. Fountainbridge
    Member

    No changes today to Morrison Street layout.

    So far no response from transport councillors or actual council that I'm aware of.

    Melvin Walk - presume you mean at Fountainbridge end. They've erected scaffold over the path so it shouldn't need to close again. It was closed for concrete pumping previously.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  14. Fountainbridge
    Member

    Looks like Morrison Street Pavement on the south side will be permanently turned over to a taxi ranks. The Haymarket pedestrian crossings will also be relocated.

    Morrison-Street-Taxi by Paul fae Fountainbridge, on Flickr

    haymarket-route by Paul fae Fountainbridge, on Flickr

    Posted 7 years ago #

  15. PS
    Member

    No excuse to not be providing for pedestrians with a road that wide. Not one.
    Especially as it is the key pedestrian link from Haymarket station to the city's main business district. In a joined-up planning world (or, indeed, a world class city) one of those lanes of traffic would be permanently transformed into a nice wide pavement.

    @Fountainbridge I think (hope) the Haymarket office development is going to be permeable to peds, with a walkway on a direct alignment in line with the railway tunnels (diagonal lines on your second plan) from the bottom left ped crossing to the corner of Morrison St and Morrison Link. This may explain why the taxi rank is going to take over that pavement space. Of course, that doesn't help peds who want to go to Atholl Place.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  16. Stickman
    Member

    From Gavin Barrie:

    "pavement restored early next week, closure for pedestrian safety due to heavy works & keeping traffic moving."

    Keep the Great God Traffic Flow appeased by sacrificing pedestrians.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  17. Rosie
    Member

    Morrison Street pavement is a scandal. Commuters from Haymarket to Fountainbridge/Lothian Road i.e. the financial district and major employers, spill out into the road. Try & push your cycle along it.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  18. Rosie
    Member

    Tried Morrison Street last night. 2 lanes, awful, walked down the pavement, also awful among the stream heading to Haymarket.

    So down the convoluted way to Morrison Crescent, all around the houses and against the cars blocking the route to the end of Dalry Road and head along the A8 that way until further notice.

    Heading to Muireston pretty dicey now as well.

    Also Ardmillan Terrace still blocked I assume, & the canal.

    Not nice out west at the moment.

    Posted 7 years ago #

  19. CycleAlex
    Member

    From an FOI I came across:

    The Morrison Street project has progressed well in the last quarter during which the project scope has substantially increased. The project aims have been clearly defined and aligned through close partnership between CEC and Sustrans. Temporary cycle segregation and widened footways will be implemented along the corridor and inform the design of permanent measures.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  20. gembo
    Member

    Is ardmillannstill blocked?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  21. Frenchy
    Member

    @CycleAlex - your link isn't working.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  22. CycleAlex
    Member

    Should be fixed now!

    Posted 3 years ago #

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