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SNP pledge 10% cycle spend in Glasgow...

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  1. Stickman
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    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15150845.SNP_pledge_extra_cash_for_active_travel_scheme/?ref=twtrec

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    The party’s leader on Glasgow City Council said if it takes control after the election in May it will increase spending for active travel to 10% of the overall budget for transport in the city.

    With more than half of people in Glasgow not having access to a car, Susan Aitken said more resources should be targeted at walking and cycling

    She added: “We will also commit to fund repairs to our pavements and work to make living streets of our city roads. We will reduce the speed limit on all roads except major routes and work with communities to implement traffic-free zones around schools..

    Worth passing this on to any SNP candidates in Edinburgh....

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
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    @Stickman

    Incredible. I shall pass to the candidate here who never ever cycles.

    (Because his guide dog can't reach the pedals of a tandem.)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Frenchy
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    @IWRATS - which ward is that?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
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    @Frenchy

    Oooo, now. The one that goes from Double Hedges up to Moredun. I dunno how it be called. Guy is Derek Howie, he's #1 down the hill but #2 up the hill where they're punting a lady who used to clear mines. Coincidence surely, Moredun isn't actually mined.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
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    Moredun isn't actually mined.
    That's what they want you to think.

    Is this a CCE scoop? Can't find any information anywhere else (on the SNP candidates, not Moredun being mined...).

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
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    The ESSZ (Edinburgh South Splittist Zealots) though highly charming are notoriously incompetent operationally. It's entirely possible they've omitted to tell anyone who their candidates are. In fact it's entirely possible the candidates don't know.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. crowriver
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    Wow. That is very good news!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. Rosie
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    Kudos to them for this.

    It's interesting they think 10% to active travel is a vote winner & that they take on hard stats about how many people don't have access to a car.

    It's said of Americans that they don't mind millionaires & gross inequality as they think that they may be a millionaire one day.

    I thought it might be the same for the non-motorised...

    But maybe there's no real ambition among many to own a car as they know that getting somewhere to live will be hard enough.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
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    CYCLE infrastructure risks exacerbating health inequalities in Glasgow;

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15151916.Cycleways_in_Glasgow_exacerbating_health_inequalities_between_rich_and_poor/

    I know what she means but cycle infrastructure is not the cause of poverty and inequality.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. chdot
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    "I thought it might be the same for the non-motorised"

    Might have been, but - more importantly - politicians seem to believe it still is.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. chdot
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    CYCLE infrastructure risks exacerbating health inequalities in Glasgow unless more effort is made to target routes and bicycle hire schemes to the most deprived communities, public health experts have warned.

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    So, there is actual Public Heath 'proof' that cycling is good for people's health? AND that people doing it are already healthier and/or better off?

    Definitely needs to be highlighted more.

    As I I've probably said on here before, I was in CEC meetings years ago when there was serious discussion about where cycle infrastructure should be built - 'where people already cycle or where they don't'.

    This was long before even 5% of the transport budget for cycling and the pragmatic decision was for more spending in and around the city centre.

    Highlights how 'cycling' is about a LOT more than 'transport'.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. Rosie
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    We come to cycling infrastructure from a lot of directions.

    It's simple ordinary "desire line" for many of us - we want to have safe commutes and parking.
    It's witnessing good cycling infrastructure abroad.
    It's concerns about pollution (especially for children).
    It's concerns about health/obesity (especially for children).
    It's a vision of a city not based around motorised transport (that's what drives me into cycling activism - an idea of the city via Mumford, Jacobs & Gehl). A human city.
    IWRATS - cycling was a kind of socialist enterprise in its day as you probably know (eg Syliva Pankhurst & The Clarion). However that was when the roads had not been colonised by the internal combusters.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
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    "We come to cycling infrastructure from a lot of directions"

    That's true!

    The idea of segregated infrastructure has taken off in recent years (a lot of credit goes to PoP).

    The idea that people want to cycle is both true and a good reason for providing suitable/better infra.

    It's likely that 'early adopters' will be people who already have bikes but are unwilling to use them in 'current road conditions'.

    Whether people who don't have bikes will be encouraged to get/use them (with infrastructure in place) is more of an unknown.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. chdot
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    This is part of a comment left on a Public Health England blog -

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    The evidence suggests that access/affordability of healthy food impacts on an individuals dietary choices and access to safe places to exercise will impact on exercise choices this presentation of information can lead to victim blaming on an individual basis and offers policy makers an excuse to ignore the contexts in which people live

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    https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2017/07/13/10-facts-that-sum-up-our-nations-health-in-2017/#comment-136326

    Which is an analysis which relates to Glasgow SNP's apparent intentions (quotes from up thread) -

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    With more than half of people in Glasgow not having access to a car, Susan Aitken said more resources should be targeted at walking and cycling

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    CYCLE infrastructure risks exacerbating health inequalities in Glasgow unless more effort is made to target routes and bicycle hire schemes to the most deprived communities, public health experts have warned.

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    Reminds me of something I wrote 7 years ago on Edinburgh's ATAP

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    I was at one of the 'stakeholder events' that 'informed' the current draft. The most interesting thing was the clear evidence of very different views within the council about priorities.

    Specifically a split between the idea that more money/effort should be put into areas where people already cycle - notably the city centre or places where cycling is less common.

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    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=986#post-9060

    I wonder if SNP councillors will manage to have any influence on SG.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. chdot
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