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General Election 8th June

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  • Started 7 years ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
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    Britain Elects (@britainelects)
    25/05/2017, 10:01 pm
    Westminster voting intention:

    CON: 43% (-1)
    LAB: 38% (+3)
    LDEM: 10% (+1)
    UKIP: 4% (+1)

    (via @YouGov / 24 - 25 May)

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. chdot
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    Amid fevered discussions of Brexit, the NHS and social care, not to mention the suddenly renewed importance of security and tackling terrorism, it might seem a bit niche – almost frivolous – to ask what the party manifestos are saying about cycling.

    But I’d argue it’s interesting and worthwhile for a couple of reasons. To begin with, as I’ve endlessly argued on this blog, getting significantly more people on to two wheels can bring enormous benefits to the nation.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2017/may/25/manifesto-guide-which-party-will-do-the-most-for-cycling

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. chdot
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    Lord Ashcroft, the Tory peer and independent pollster, said focus groups in Edinburgh South West and Aberdeen South found that SNP supporters who voted for Brexit were being turned off by Nicola Sturgeon’s push for indyref2 over the UK’s EU exit.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/lord-ashcroft-study-indyref2-putting-off-snp-supporters-in-2-seats-1-4458278

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. chdot
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    he also attached a draft letter to a newspaper in which he aimed a barb at the business history of Labour general election candidate Ian Murray, accusing him of running two failed companies which left debts.

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    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15314043.Edinburgh_Lord_Provost_apologised_to_SNP_colleagues_after_failing_to_declare_hotel_ownership/

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. chdot
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    Bookmakers have revealed that the Edinburgh seat previously held by Labour’s Ian Murray has seen the most amount of betting activity of any Scottish constituency for the upcoming General Election.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/general-election-edinburgh-south-most-gambled-on-scottish-constituency-1-4458324

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Of course there's nothing new in talking up your chances -

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    1978, Robin Cook got back in.

    Hands up anyone who recognises the man in the photo.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. gibbo
    Member

    Britain Elects (@britainelects)
    25/05/2017, 10:01 pm
    Westminster voting intention:

    CON: 43% (-1)
    LAB: 38% (+3)
    LDEM: 10% (+1)
    UKIP: 4% (+1)

    (via @YouGov / 24 - 25 May)

    That's Yougov, who have a very poor reputation.

    Even given the Lib Dems have chosen to take a dive in this election, I'd be shocked if Labour gets near 38%.

    That would be a higher share than the Tories got in 2015, and an incease of 7.5% percentage points.

    (Which would mean a 24.5% improvement from Miliband to Corbyn.)

    Just seems incredibly unlikely.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. chdot
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  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Hands up anyone who recognises the man in the photo.

    Oh God it's not David Mundell is it?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    @IWRATS you were only supposed to put your hand up, not say the words as they are too terrible.

    I thought it was Jimmy hill?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "not David Mundell is it?"

    Correct, different generation.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

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    IT USED to be said you could tell a lot about a constituency by its supermarkets. The more branches of Waitrose, the theory went, the higher the Conservative vote.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/labour-and-tories-battle-for-pro-uk-vote-in-no-heartland-1-4459663

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Correct, different generation.

    Now come on, it's not Oliver Mundell.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    You're going in the wrong direction.

    That photo is 40 years old.

    Think taxis.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. wee folding bike
    Member

    David McLetchie?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McLetchie

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    mors bad nasty words. I am sticking with Jimmy Hill

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. wee folding bike
    Member

    Underchinned for the footballer's friend.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. algo
    Member

    @chdot - don't you mean 1979?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "don't you mean 1979?"

    Seems so.

    Leaflet is '78 so Tories being overoptimistic a year ahead!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. HankChief
    Member

    Just watched the live streaming of an Edinburgh West Hustings. I think I will be abstaining...

    Don't bother unless you have time to waste and a high tolerance of petty politics :-(

    https://election.38degrees.org.uk/constituencies/S14000026

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. Klaxon
    Member

    I hope statement in jest

    Low turnout only helps the blue team even if your particular set of candidates are all dross

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. acsimpson
    Member

    @HankChief,

    The independent candidate stands out as a particularly bitter man. Perhaps Labour's candidate was hoping to gain votes by staying away.

    The sound quality is pretty poor so I've only watched the first 20 mintues

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Watched the TV debate. Literally cannot believe that someone too chicken to turn up and willing to throw an underling to the lions in their place is going to be prime minister.

    Still think nothing good is likely to come of this election, but Corbyn was more effective than I expected.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "but Corbyn was more effective than I expected"

    I thought he was better on the Sky/C4 one - but different format, only one interviewee at a time, and Paxman was awful,

    "is going to be prime minister"

    I think it's reasonable to assume she will, the Conservative majority is a whole other thing!

    What I don't understand is the 'I will get a better Brexit deal' assertion.

    Apart from the fact that I don't think there is a good deal to be had by anyone, I don't understanding why her 'this is want I want/will settle for is a good negotiation stance - or likely to be successful.

    IF any significant proportion of the electorate really care about immigration numbers AND think they will get sorted after Brexit they are likely to be disappointed.

    Other things like how the economy works and dealing with Climate Change, international instability etc are much less under the control of national politicians than any will admit/hope people will believe.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. gibbo
    Member

    @acsimpson

    "The independent candidate stands out as a particularly bitter man."

    I liked him.

    Unfortunately, as I don't agree with the push for a 2nd referendum, I won't be voting for him.

    Or, indeed, any of the others.

    I'll be spoiling my vote.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    What I don't understand is the 'I will get a better Brexit deal' assertion.

    Most of the Tories and many Labour people are extremely wealthy and represent safe seats. They're used to getting what they want through social connections without compromise or negotiation.

    They simply haven't a clue about the world of pain awaiting them when 27 countries stand shoulder to shoulder to protect their own interests.

    Corbyn insisted last night he'd negotiate tariff-free access to the single market, apparently unaware that the dastardly foreigners regard the four freedoms as inseparable. Some Tories somewhere are smart enough to know they're getting nothing and to plan a North Korean response.

    Expect to see Boris executed by anti-aircraft canon in early 2020.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. PS
    Member

    Expect to see Boris executed by anti-aircraft canon in early 2020.

    Well that's something to vote for. Now, if you could guarantee Boris being tied to Paul Dacre when it happens...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. Tulyar
    Member

    Will no one vote tactically? A split vote could easily let in the very PPC that no one wants?

    Posted 6 years ago #
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