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General Election 8th June

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  1. Nelly
    Member

    "This article makes for depressing, but entirely plausible reading"

    Yes, the polls have been nonsense the last few important events.

    I would love Labour to get in Nationally, but I expect another disappointment and the astonishingly inept May to be our PM on Friday.

    I like Corbyn, and unless you are a Daily Mail/Express reader, you cant disagree with much he has to say. To me, hes an honest Labour politician and the first Labour leader since John Smith that I click with.

    Sadly the right wing press has much of our older population believing the propoganda (hes unelectable, hes a terrorist sympathiser, his policies are sooo left wing, blah blah).

    My problem is that I dont like my local Labour MP, he might as well be part of Ruth Davidsons mob.

    I am so disappointed with Scottish Labour.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  2. StepRam
    Member

    Dont Care how you Vote for so long as there not Blue, but Do Vote, as Said above Low Turnout, benefits the only those voted for by Wealthy Pensioners.

    Even Write something interesting on the Ballot Paper it always makes for an intresting Night. Someone wrote C U Next Tuesday on one Paper at the Council elections!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  3. hunnymonster
    Member

    If you are going to turn up & spoil your ballot paper (as I regularly have done in the past), ensure you don't accidentally vote (especially for someone you find distasteful) whilst doing so...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32658907/election-2015-mp-thanks-voter-for-penis-ballot-paper-mark

    Posted 6 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/psychic-raccoon-predicts-result-of-general-election-1-4467863

    Posted 6 years ago #

  5. LaidBack
    Member

    STV has Scotland Decides on now.

    Watch four Holyrood leaders debate about an election they aren't personally standing in.

    Bernard Ponsonby should have had Angus Robertson versus the Mundell/Murray/Carmichael collective!

    Of course Angus has asked 'too many questions' so is a big target for the Unionist tendency on June 8th. Scottish politicians shouldn't get 'above themselves'. See Greg Moodie's cartoons in The National!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  6. crowriver
    Member

    "Watch four Holyrood leaders debate about an election they aren't personally standing in."

    Bizarre, isn't it? I didn't bother to watch any of the TV debates. Not my idea of interesting television.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  7. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/general-election-bookmakers-reveal-snp-mps-likely-to-lose-their-seats-1-4466495

    Posted 6 years ago #

  8. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/tennis/andy-murray/andy-murray-vows-he-will-never-be-a-tax-exile-1-4467766

    Posted 6 years ago #

  9. spytfyre
    Member

    He's standing for election now.
    O.o

    Posted 6 years ago #

  10. StepRam
    Member

    Stolen from EBC's Facebook page but still, tells a story!
    https://twitter.com/FurcoatNaeNicks/status/872064592624721920

    Posted 6 years ago #

  11. chdot
    Admin

    Is that the only time NS has been seen with a bike?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    I'm SO confused.

    Two personally addressed missives by mail.

    1) from Alistair Darling "Former Chancellor of the Exchequer and Chair of Better Together

    "

    Only Labour can beat the SNP here

    "

    2) from "Scottish Conservative & Unionist" (small letters)

    "

    ONLY A VOTE FOR RUTH DAVIDSON'S CANDIDATE STEPHANIE SMITH CAN STOP THE SNP HERE IN EDINBURGH SOUTH

    "

    Posted 6 years ago #

  13. cb
    Member

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/the-scottish-tories-have-been-accused-of-sending-out

    "
    The Scottish Conservatives have been accused of "lying" to voters after using national poll results on local leaflets, wrongly implying they were far ahead of the Labour party in constituency election fights.

    The leaflets have been sent out in Scottish Conservative target seats where the party fears Labour could take away pro-UK votes. They feature graphs appearing to show Labour has no chance of winning in these areas, including Edinburgh South, the constituency Labour won in Scotland in 2015.
    "

    Posted 6 years ago #

  14. chdot
    Admin

    "
    The Scottish Conservatives have been accused of "lying" to voters after using national poll results on local leaflets, wrongly implying they were far ahead of the Labour party in constituency election fights.

    "

    Yep

    Will add photo

    Posted 6 years ago #

  15. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    Ian McGill's flyers and Facebook advertising (Edinburgh North and Leith) feature one of those dodgy charts. I've emailed him twice to ask how he has derived figures for EN&L from the results of the recent council election. Unsurprisingly, no answer. The Broughton Spurtle has published several articles on this practice. e.g. http://www.broughtonspurtle.org.uk/news/dodgy-election-bar-charts

    Posted 6 years ago #

  16. fimm
    Member

    I really can't decide.
    I have an SNP MP, but the seat was Labour before the last election. At that election Labour were second, the Tories third and the rest nowhere.
    Do I
    a) vote SNP on the basis that they were the largest party last time
    b) vote Labour on the basis that I'd prefer to vote for them than the SNP but risk splitting the non-Tory vote and letting the Tory in
    c) give up on all of the tactical voting shenanigans and just vote for the party I really want to vote for? (but see letting the Tories in above).

    Posted 6 years ago #

  17. UtrechtCyclist
    Member

    If you trust the betting markets as a proxy for likelihood to win the seat (a very big if), then you could look at who is running second behind the SNP. Smaller numbers correspond to being more likely to win. Edinburgh East is here, there's a drag down menu to change constituency.

    I've never voted tactically, but then again I've never lived in a constituency where my chosen party did worse than 2nd...

    Posted 6 years ago #

  18. acsimpson
    Member

    @cb and chdot.

    In Edinburgh West the Tories are pedalling the same lies and national charts. As far as I'm aware they are not targeting it as I have only had the one leaflet of lies from them compared to the daily missives from the Lib Dems.

    The Lib Dems of course claim that only they can beat the SNP which is probably likely assuming but have they overspent on the campaign?

    The SNP meanwhile claim that 1878 is larger than 2636 and that they beat the Lib Dems in the Holyrood elections despite getting less votes. So clearly are looking to get the monster raving loony votes from the constituency.

    Labour meanwhile have presumably been campaigning as I don't recall a single item coming in from them.

    Any form of PR would be better than this tactical winner takes all nonsense which only seems to encourage lies, statistics and worse.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  19. StepRam
    Member

    All of the data is pointing to a straight SNP-Tory Fight everywhere in Edinburgh. South - Ian Murray has lost the Tory support that got him over the line last time, due to Corbyn and not being an enough of a Bixit-ier.

    In West the Fib Dems have also lost the Tory support that got them over the line for the same reasons.

    It really is SNP v Tory all the way.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  20. Frenchy
    Member

    What data for Edinburgh South is that? Bookies still have Murray as clear favourite. I cycled through Morning side other day and saw dozens of Ian Murray posters, not a single payer for any other candidate.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  21. crowriver
    Member

    "Tories are pedalling the same lies"

    Oi! You mean "peddling".

    Folk peddle lies, like a peddler or pedlar (street seller, esp. of drugs or stolen goods).

    Folk pedal bikes, pedal boats, and so on. They do not pedal lies (unless they're Lance Armstrong, etc).

    Posted 6 years ago #

  22. gembo
    Member

    Murray should hold south, lib dems recover west and sadly Tories take south west

    Posted 6 years ago #

  23. minus six
    Member

    thy kingdom come

    Posted 6 years ago #

  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @bax

    Could not possibly be bettered.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  25. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "In West the Fib Dems have also lost the Tory support that got them over the line for the same reasons."

    They didn't get over the line last (Westminster) time - Michelle Thomson did. And the council election results (different things I know but still) suggest they have an excellent chance.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  26. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/general-election-results-declared-around-10575700

    Posted 6 years ago #

  27. Stickman
    Member

    Who is up for some predictions/guesses ahead of the exit polls then? Here are mine...

    Conservative majority of 140
    SNP national vote share to hold steady but tactical voting will mean they lose 7 seats
    My own constituency (Edinburgh West) to go LibDem

    Posted 6 years ago #

  28. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/daily-record-eve-voting-poll-10581625

    Posted 6 years ago #

  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Who is up for some predictions/guesses ahead of the exit polls then?

    I have instructed my chicken to swallow a pair of dice marked with runes prior to my examining its innards blindfolded.

    I haven't the first notion of what will happen in Edinburgh South and I participated in the campaign there.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  30. chdot
    Admin

    "Conservative majority of 140"

    Really?

    I'm expecting about 50 and hoping TMay only gets a one seat majority!

    Fewer seats than the just ended Parliament would be fine.

    FIRM PREDICTION

    Lots of surprises.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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