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  1. cb
    Member

    Oh man, am. Going to have to stay up?

    I know - I was ready for an early night. But, now...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    Oh I do hope that exit poll is correct.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. Nelly
    Member

    Fingers (and everything else) crossed.

    Europe will be amused!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. paddyirish
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  5. chdot
    Admin

    LIKELY TO CHANGE MASSIVELY OVER THE NIGHT

    "

    Result forecast as of 22:00 BST

    We are forecasting 11 Conservative gains. Six of those are in Scotland, four in Wales and one in East England.
    Projected: Aberdeenshire West & Kincardine 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Alyn & Deeside 97% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Angus 90% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Clacton 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Clwyd South 97% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Delyn 98% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Dumfries & Galloway 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Moray 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Perth & Perthshire North 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Projected: Wrexham 99% chance of a Conservative victory
    Forecast Labour gains

    We are forecasting 14 Labour gains. Five of those are in North-West England, three in London and one each in Scotland, East England, the East Midlands, the West Midlands, South-East England, Yorkshire and the Humber.
    Projected: Bedford 97% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Bolton West 99% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Brighton Kemptown 99% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Bury North 99% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Croydon Central 99% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Derby North 99% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Edinburgh North & Leith 81% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Enfield Southgate 93% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Finchley & Golders Green 91% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Keighley 80% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: South Ribble 83% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Warrington South 90% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Weaver Vale 99% chance of a Labour victory
    Projected: Worcester 81% chance of a Labour victory
    Forecast Lib Dem gains
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    We are forecasting four Lib Dem gains. All of these are in Scotland.
    Projected: Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross 81% chance of a Liberal Democrat victory
    Projected: Dunbartonshire East 99% chance of a Liberal Democrat victory
    Projected: Edinburgh West 99% chance of a Liberal Democrat victory
    Projected: Ross, Skye & Lochaber 90% chance of a Liberal Democrat victory

    The race in a large number of seats is so tight that the result is currently too close to call. There are 76 seats that our predictions show as being too close to call.
    Seats forecast too close to call: Conservative held in 2015
    Battersea, the Conservatives have a 40% chance of victory, Labour has a 60% chance of victory
    Bristol North West, the Conservatives have a 49% chance of victory, Labour has a 51% chance of victory
    Broxtowe, the Conservatives have a 36% chance of victory, Labour has a 64% chance of victory
    Calder Valley, the Conservatives have a 40% chance of victory, Labour has a 60% chance of victory
    Cannock Chase, the Conservatives have a 72% chance of victory, Labour has a 28% chance of victory
    Chingford & Woodford Green, the Conservatives have a 79% chance of victory, Labour has a 21% chance of victory
    Chipping Barnet, the Conservatives have a 41% chance of victory, Labour has a 59% chance of victory
    Colne Valley, the Conservatives have a 48% chance of victory, Labour has a 52% chance of victory
    Corby, the Conservatives have a 63% chance of victory, Labour has a 37% chance of victory
    Dudley South, the Conservatives have a 79% chance of victory, Labour has a 21% chance of victory
    Elmet & Rothwell, the Conservatives have a 41% chance of victory, Labour has a 59% chance of victory
    Harrow East, the Conservatives have a 40% chance of victory, Labour has a 60% chance of victory
    Hendon, the Conservatives have a 25% chance of victory, Labour has a 75% chance of victory
    High Peak, the Conservatives have a 48% chance of victory, Labour has a 52% chance of victory
    Kingston & Surbiton, the Conservatives have a 76% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 24% chance of victory
    Lincoln, the Conservatives have a 55% chance of victory, Labour has a 45% chance of victory
    Loughborough, the Conservatives have a 57% chance of victory, Labour has a 43% chance of victory
    Milton Keynes North, the Conservatives have a 57% chance of victory, Labour has a 43% chance of victory
    Milton Keynes South, the Conservatives have a 46% chance of victory, Labour has a 54% chance of victory
    Morecambe & Lunesdale, the Conservatives have a 69% chance of victory, Labour has a 31% chance of victory
    Morley & Outwood, the Conservatives have a 46% chance of victory, Labour has a 54% chance of victory
    Norwich North, the Conservatives have a 69% chance of victory, Labour has a 31% chance of victory
    Nuneaton, the Conservatives have a 69% chance of victory, Labour has a 31% chance of victory
    Peterborough, the Conservatives have a 64% chance of victory, Labour has a 36% chance of victory
    Plymouth Moor View, the Conservatives have a 52% chance of victory, Labour has a 48% chance of victory
    Plymouth Sutton & Devonport, the Conservatives have a 47% chance of victory, Labour has a 53% chance of victory
    Pudsey, the Conservatives have a 40% chance of victory, Labour has a 60% chance of victory
    Reading East, the Conservatives have a 34% chance of victory, Labour has a 66% chance of victory
    Reading West, the Conservatives have a 36% chance of victory, Labour has a 64% chance of victory
    Richmond Park, the Conservatives have a 77% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 23% chance of victory
    Rossendale & Darwen, the Conservatives have a 77% chance of victory, Labour has a 23% chance of victory
    Shipley, the Conservatives have a 71% chance of victory, Labour has a 29% chance of victory
    Shrewsbury & Atcham, the Conservatives have a 71% chance of victory, Labour has a 29% chance of victory
    Southampton Itchen, the Conservatives have a 72% chance of victory, Labour has a 28% chance of victory
    Stafford, the Conservatives have a 75% chance of victory, Labour has a 25% chance of victory
    Stevenage, the Conservatives have a 70% chance of victory, Labour has a 30% chance of victory
    Stockton South, the Conservatives have a 46% chance of victory, Labour has a 54% chance of victory
    Stroud, the Conservatives have a 34% chance of victory, Labour has a 66% chance of victory
    Swindon South, the Conservatives have a 79% chance of victory, Labour has a 21% chance of victory
    Telford, the Conservatives have a 50% chance of victory, Labour has a 50% chance of victory
    Thurrock, the Conservatives have a 48% chance of victory, Labour has a 52% chance of victory
    Twickenham, the Conservatives have a 67% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 33% chance of victory
    Warwick & Leamington, the Conservatives have a 31% chance of victory, Labour has a 69% chance of victory
    Watford, the Conservatives have a 75% chance of victory, Labour has a 25% chance of victory
    Waveney, the Conservatives have a 66% chance of victory, Labour has a 34% chance of victory
    Seats forecast too close to call: Labour held in 2015
    Barrow & Furness, the Conservatives have a 39% chance of victory, Labour has a 61% chance of victory
    Bridgend, the Conservatives have a 23% chance of victory, Labour has a 77% chance of victory
    Dewsbury, the Conservatives have a 31% chance of victory, Labour has a 69% chance of victory
    Halifax, the Conservatives have a 45% chance of victory, Labour has a 55% chance of victory
    Newcastle-Under-Lyme, the Conservatives have a 40% chance of victory, Labour has a 60% chance of victory
    Newport East, the Conservatives have a 53% chance of victory, Labour has a 47% chance of victory
    Newport West, the Conservatives have a 47% chance of victory, Labour has a 53% chance of victory
    Ynys Mon, the Conservatives have a 13% chance of victory, Labour has a 55% chance of victory, Plaid Cymru has a 32% chance of victory
    Seats forecast too close to call: Liberal Democrat held in 2015
    Leeds North West, Labour has a 56% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 44% chance of victory
    Sheffield Hallam, Labour has a 33% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 67% chance of victory
    Southport, the Conservatives have a 10% chance of victory, Labour has a 14% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 76% chance of victory
    Seats forecast too close to call: SNP held in 2015
    Aberdeen South, the Conservatives have a 63% chance of victory, Labour has a 11% chance of victory, the SNP has a 26% chance of victory
    Airdrie & Shotts, Labour has a 23% chance of victory, the SNP has a 77% chance of victory
    Argyll & Bute, the Conservatives have a 4% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 36% chance of victory, the SNP has a 60% chance of victory
    Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock, the Conservatives have a 35% chance of victory, Labour has a 1% chance of victory, the SNP has a 64% chance of victory
    Banff & Buchan, the Conservatives have a 25% chance of victory, the SNP has a 75% chance of victory
    East Lothian, the Conservatives have a 24% chance of victory, Labour has a 55% chance of victory, the SNP has a 20% chance of victory
    Edinburgh East, Labour has a 49% chance of victory, the SNP has a 51% chance of victory
    Edinburgh South West, the Conservatives have a 37% chance of victory, Labour has a 27% chance of victory, the SNP has a 36% chance of victory
    Fife North East, the Conservatives have a 7% chance of victory, the Liberal Democrats have a 73% chance of victory, the SNP has a 20% chance of victory
    Glasgow Central, Labour has a 59% chance of victory, the SNP has a 41% chance of victory
    Gordon, the Liberal Democrats have a 51% chance of victory, the SNP has a 49% chance of victory
    Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey, the Liberal Democrats have a 48% chance of victory, the SNP has a 52% chance of victory
    Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath, Labour has a 25% chance of victory, the SNP has a 75% chance of victory
    Lanark & Hamilton East, the Conservatives have a 5% chance of victory, Labour has a 16% chance of victory, the SNP has a 79% chance of victory
    Ochil & Perthshire South, the Conservatives have a 31% chance of victory, Labour has a 23% chance of victory, the SNP has a 46% chance of victory
    Paisley & Renfrewshire North, Labour has a 21% chance of victory, the SNP has a 79% chance of victory
    Paisley & Renfrewshire South, Labour has a 54% chance of victory, the SNP has a 46% chance of victory
    Renfrewshire East, the Conservatives have a 32% chance of victory, Labour has a 58% chance of victory, the SNP has a 10% chance of victory
    Rutherglen & Hamilton West, Labour has a 41% chance of victory, the SNP has a 59% chance of victory
    Stirling, the Conservatives have a 56% chance of victory, Labour has a 3% chance of victory, the SNP has a 41% chance of victory

    "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Darkerside
    Member

    Interesting night!

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  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. gembo
    Member

    Did not see that coming. Was supposed to be end of corbyn not end of May. Corbyn being praised by arch blairite John McTernan. Corbyn got the young to vote for him but only increased a
    By a few seats.

    DUP do not like Corbyn of course.

    Next election here we come

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. paddyirish
    Member

    Wow, exit polls pretty close to truth. Strong and Stable my ****.
    Good news in UK as a whole, but shame Scotland had to pay the price.

    NE Fife settled by 2 votes SNP over Lib Dem - that is pretty amazing...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    SNP still dominant but their near annihilation of Scottish labour let the Tories back in. Up north.

    Two votes is well within the standard error of measurement.

    Not sure what has happened to the west in coatbridge and rutherglen? Tories voting labour to beat SNP? Lib dem voting labour?

    Tories highest share of vote in Uk (and Scotland) since 1983?

    My daughter who has been voting since 16 sees Corbyn as the man ( same as me) but her cronies all see SNP as establishment?

    Corbyn though has not translated votes into seats, says John curt ice. Sadly. Zack goldsmith back with majority of 45.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "Did not see that coming."

    Well I did (sort of) -

    "FIRM PREDICTION

    Lots of surprises."

    Whatever the view of the details, I really think the electorate won.

    There remain various Scotland v the rest differences/divides.

    Good case for further devolution/more (UK) federalism, maybe more desire for a 'fairer' electoral system.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. steveo
    Member

    Good news in UK as a whole, but shame Scotland had to pay the price.

    Not sure what price you reckon we've paid? A few extra tories is hardly electing Trump. Would it be good to keep the panda joke, yes, but it's hardly the end of the world.

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  13. chdot
    Admin

    "Corbyn being praised by arch blairite John McTernan." (Radio4 Today)

    Think "praised" is pushing it.

    McT seemed most embarrassed to talk about someone who almost certainly did more for LP than anyone else could have at this election.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "Not sure what price you reckon we've paid?"

    Well if those seats had remained SNP or gone Lab, Westminster arithmetic would have been very different.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. steveo
    Member

    Well if those seats had remained SNP or gone Lab, Westminster arithmetic would have been very different.

    True but people voting for a party which they support, however, distasteful isn't a price and certainly not one the whole country is paying.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    "I am confident(ish) that it will be Murray or Eadie."

    REALLY didn't expect massive majority for Murray -

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/S14000024

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/ian-murray-holds-edinburgh-south-1-4470754

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. LaidBack
    Member

    Angus Robertson gone.
    Mhairi Black re-elected.

    Deluded May has now weakened the economy with her reckless gamble. Expect she will/should go but can count on DUP support.
    Media will turn against her massively I expect.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. Nelly
    Member

    Tories getting into bed with the flute players of the DUP has some interesting Brexit dynamics given the unique European situation in Northern Ireland/Republic border.

    Perhaps not as clear cut a coalition as some expect.

    Surprised at some Tory gains up here, but in some ways it's a return to the norm (Tory seats in the Highlands and borders).

    Indyref2 is dead - once in a generation quote proved correct.

    Ian Murray returned with a bigger majority! Shows how well he has done locally, sticks in my throat that he is part of the Labour party after his backstabbing of Corbyn.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    REALLY didn't expect massive majority for Murray

    Wow.

    Stephanie Smith's leaflets claimed that only the Conservatives could beat the SNP in Edinburgh South...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    REALLY didn't expect massive majority for Murray

    He was up against a paper Tory candidate and a shy SNP candidate who had already been beaten by Murray's watery sidekick in 2016. No contest.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I told you nothing good could come of this election, but I hadn't quite let my imagination run to Ms May as prime minister negotiating the UK's exit from the EU while in hock to the DUP.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "my imagination run to Ms May as prime minister negotiating the UK's exit"

    More likely her own exit.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @chdot

    Yes, I expect the Shadows will be gathering around her, but what then? David Davis would be the most palatable option.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. paddyirish
    Member

    But Tories are livid with David Davis - apparently he was the main proponent of the snap election.

    The Tories have lost ground in Remain constituencies so the chances are that there are fewer "decent" Tories (if there is such a thing) and a higher concentration of swivel eyed loons in the parliamentary party...

    Boris seemed unusually chipper this morning...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @paddyirish

    I've no idea what's likely - they are as foreign to me as the Open Vlaamse Liberalen en Democraten party, but at least Davis is intelligent and has some principles (many of which I don't like but he has them).

    I don't suppose there's a John Major figure lurking somewhere amongst the sack of rapidly swiveling greased rats?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Zak's back...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. paddyirish
    Member

    @IWRATS

    Share your pessimism about this

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. cb
    Member

    "Zak's back... "

    With another 49 votes the Libdems could have had two more seats.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. cb
    Member

    Tory vote wasn't that far behind SNP in Edinburgh South.
    I wonder how many votes for Murray were 'despite Corbyn'. I'd wager a hell of a lot.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. Morningsider
    Member

    I think any Tory planning a political future will prop up May until the Brexit negotiations are done. When it all falls to bits, then they will pounce. Why go for it now when you can let a lame duck take all the blame.

    I suspect the DUP will come to rue this day - see how well coalition worked out for that nice Mr Clegg and his pals.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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