@chdot
Aren't they?
Not from what I can tell. They want a "less hard" Brexit. Which, to me*, seems like a typical Lib Dem bit of fence sitting.
(A swing voter who's voted for 5 different parties in his life - including the Lib Dems.)
CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Debate!
General Election 8th June
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Posted 7 years ago #
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I should like to tell you something about the meeting I had with Mrs May last week, to which I referred earlier.
The general impression I came away with is that the Prime Minister intends to take a constructive, pragmatic approach to the forthcoming negotiations. As I see it, this can only improve after the British elections.
In particular, Mrs May assured me that the problems faced by ordinary people, which I was at pains to highlight, are also central concerns for the British Government. It remains to be seen how these good intentions are put into practice.
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http://www.europarl.europa.eu/the-president/en/press-room/european-parliament-president-speech-to-the-european-council
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Can she really believe this?
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Theresa May said voting for the SNP would help Jeremy Corbyn into Downing Street as she made her first general election campaign visit to Scotland yesterday.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/may-warns-voting-for-snp-will-put-corbyn-into-no-10-1-4433428
Posted 7 years ago # -
She doesn't need to, she needs you to.
Posted 7 years ago # -
That's true.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Of course, never believe the polls.
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British PM May sees lead over Labour fall by 10 points in a week: YouGov
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-election-poll-yougov-idUSKBN17V0TR
Posted 7 years ago # -
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Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann)
01/05/2017, 4:05 pm
Waiting for PM to speak, no sign of Conservative branding again but her name is up in BIG lettershttp://pic.twitter.com/6AGKGaEng7
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LABOUR former Chancellor Alistair Darling has hit out at Tory Brexiteers, warning the general election must not be hijacked by “extreme people with a bleak, narrow view of our country’s future”.
Campaigning with Ian Murray in Bruntsfield, he said the big issue in the election was the country’s future after Brexit and claimed majority of people wanted a “sensible” relationship with Europe.
He said: “We now face a situation where we have a very, very uncertain future following the Brexit vote. It wasn’t the result I wanted but democracy means that that is where we are.
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Official: Conservative Party renamed (in Scotland)
https://mobile.twitter.com/AngusRobertson/status/858345851172904960
This must be a coincidence -
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Crathes Castle, historic seat of the Burnett of Leys family.
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That video I posted has got banned from You Tube. How queer!
Posted 7 years ago # -
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Our first and most important pledge is The Scotsman will not tell you how to vote. Not at the council elections. Not at the General Election. And not at any future independence referendum.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/the-scotsman-s-2017-election-manifesto-1-4434541
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How on earth will people know who to vote for? Hopefully the Sun will still tell them...
Posted 7 years ago # -
Tony Giugliano selected as SNP candidate for Edinburgh West. He didn't impress when he was Holyrood candidate.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials.
It's been days and I can't find any way to parse this that doesn't make the speaker sound weak, unstable and quite possibly a bit mad.
Anyone fancy a sweepstakes on how long till she appears on a balcony in military uniform?
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Jim Eadie selected as SNP candidate for Edinburgh South. Nice chap but he got beaten by a fop when he was a sitting MSP and will be lucky to escape with his life in a battle with Ian Murray.
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@IWRATS - Do you know if there were other serious contenders?
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"will be lucky to escape with his life in a battle with Ian Murray"
You're assuming this is an election based on the merit of candidates!
Will there be multi-party hustings?
Posted 7 years ago # -
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“And that I think will happen to the Tories. Boasting before an election is an extremely foolish thing to do. The people have their say at the ballot box and I think the north-east of Scotland has a way of bringing people who make vainglorious boasts down to earth with a sharp bump.”
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/alex-salmond-foolish-tories-can-t-win-my-seat-1-4439511
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Do you know if there were other serious contenders?
No idea mate. I heard Ash Denham was in the frame, but it was a back room fix in the end.
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Wouldn't it be lovely if the fact that our society literally drives us mad was considered a national emergency?
What will we get instead? Ten years of arguing with the neighbours and a war or two.
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"Wouldn't it be lovely if the fact that our society literally drives us mad was considered a national emergency?"
Is that before of after dealing with the 'air pollution, public health emergency'?
(Yes I know they are interlinked!)
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Good mental health is surely a prerequisite for identifying and dealing with other problems? Right up there with food and shelter I'd say.
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From link -
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Edwards said: “The barometer of any nation is the health and happiness of its people. We have made great strides in the health of our bodies, we now need to achieve the same for the health of our minds.”
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Which, of course, reinforces the problem.
"great strides in the health of our bodies" - is that like better food and more exercise (like cycling to work)?
Better to deal with mental (and physical) health problems before they happen?
Not aware that Govs understand this (enough).
If they do they don't act because 'invest now, save later' goes further than the 5 year electoral cycle (remember them?)
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Couldn’t he talk about his new promise to create an extra 10,000 mental health workers by 2020 to replace the 6,000 ones he had just sacked? “Sure,” said Marr. “How are you going to fund that?” The Condemned Man shrugged. By cutting £1.4bn from another bit of the NHS budget. Simples.
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Billy Bragg (@billybragg)
09/05/2017, 6:20 pm
I'll be on Channel Four News at 7pm talking about why I believe Labour should be part of a progressive alliance against the Tories."
Seems he's fallen out with Lab for promoting idea.
On C4 just said something like 'Lab need to realise now in 21st C. This election will be about Brexit and Indy. I fear a wipeout, like in Scotland, unless Lab willing to get involved in progressive alliances.'
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The Scottish Greens stood in 32 seats at the 2015 and lost all but 1 deposit, that's £ 15,500. They declared a spend of £34,863.32 and accepted donations of £10,904.55. That's a net loss of £23,461.22 (or £733 per seat contested); small change for one of the big parties, but that's big money for a party like the Greens. The main target seat in spend terms was Edinburgh East, where Peter McColl did a fairly respectable 4th, getting 6% of the vote (twice that of the Lib Dems) and managing to get his deposit back.
After putting in a big effort at the 2016 Holyrood elections and the 2017 council elections, realistically they can't actually afford to run another big election campaign in a large number of constituencies where they are more than likely to see no return of an MP and, if lucky, a few deposits retained. Spend and effort is targeted where it might get some return, and good results at Holyrood and in the Edinburgh and Glasgow (and a few other pockets) local elections show this strategy has paid off. There are more than a handful of wards where 2 or even 3 of the "big 4" parties came behind the Greens in 1st preferences, and quite a few more where they are within a few percentage points of them.
Anyway, they will do what their membership votes for, not what Tommy Sheppard or Murdo Fraser want.
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The Scottish Greens were under the £250k limit for central returns (i.e. not constituency spend) so didn't file one.
For those interested, the constituency + central spend of all the "big" parties in Scotland for the 2015 GE were;
Labour Party £2,087,485 59 Candidates, 1 seat
Scottish National Party (SNP) £2,181,994 59 Candidates, 56 seats
Conservative Party £2,155,390 59 Candidates, 1 seat
Liberal Democrats £712,824 59 candidates, 1 seat
Scottish Green Party £34,863 32 candidates, 0 seats
UK Independence Party (UKIP) £19,651 41 candidates, 0 seats
Scottish Socialist Party £5,722 4 candidates, 0 seatsAll the above figures are of public record. I don't expect any local or national rag to trouble themselves to look them up before ringing Murdo Fraser.
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@kaputnik SGP didn't lose the deposit for Edinburgh North and Leith in 2015 either, despite it not being a target seat, one of the reasons for running again this time.
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@kaputnik - they kept (at least) three deposit - Ed East, Ed North and Leith, and Glasgow North. Your point still stands, of course.
Was it Murdo Fraser who, not that long ago, wanted to disband the Scottish Conservatives?
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