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https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/imposing_speed_limits_on_cyclist#incoming-982381
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Anxiously awaiting the response from the 19 other councils to which he submitted an identical request.
I like the curtness of the response.
https://www.darkerside.org/2014/01/glasgow-park-management-rules/
it seems like in Glasgow park there is a speed limit for cyclists I noticed the 10 mph signs when rode back from the ferry on sunday
Not sure you can make a byelaw setting a speed limit for bikes on a road in Scotland. Section 201 of The Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 states:
"Byelaws shall not be made under this section for any purpose as respects any area if provision for that purpose as respects that area is made by, or is or may be made under, any other enactment."
Road speed limits are set under specific legislation - which would seem to mean that byelaws couldn't touch this area.
Begs the Question, Who is David Smith?
David Smith (yes, who is he?) might be thinking of speed limits in parks, paths etc rather than roads. It's the sort of thing that some Community Councillors and their ilk would dearly like to impose.
Begs the Question, Who is David Smith?
...and what name does he use when commenting on the EEN?
Begs the Question, Who is David Smith?
Seems there's a long dormant poster on this forum with that handle. We can't assume that the FOI requester was by default looking for a cosh with which to beat cyclists, it could have been quite the opposite that made him file it.
it seems like in Glasgow park there is a speed limit for cyclists I noticed the 10 mph signs when rode back from the ferry on sunday
I'm sure I've said something similar before but, if there are speed limits for cyclists, how can they be expected to know if they are breaking them or not?
Using that logic, unless cars have a sensor that tells them what distance they are overtaking a cyclist, limits cant apply...
It is quite easy to judge 1.5 m (or more to the point whether or not your action is endangering a cyclist). Much less easy to judge your speed. This is why cars have devices which tell you how fast you are going.
Much less easy to judge your speed.
Oh, I don't know about that. Since the 20mph limit came in, I've found it pretty easy to judge when my car is going 20mph without having to look at my speedometer very often. Astonishing, I know, given all those EEN complaints about how drivers would be less attentive as they stared at their dials...
Yeahbut. Try it on a bike.
When driving I find it's very easy to judge 20mph on narrower or congested multi-lane roads - it basically just feels like a natural, safe pace for the road. However on wider roads, it's very hard to judge and 20mph feels very slow - eg. Arboretum Place.
This is no surprise to traffic engineers of course. However, it emphasises that speed perception is a bit weird at the best of times in the controlled environment of a car, so expecting cyclists of all experience to know their speed to within 5mph in an even greater variety of environments is perhaps a bit unfair. I only have an instinct for it from looking at Strava traces, which isn't something everyone has by any means.
How enforceable are the "15mph Max" decals on the cycle path of the FRB? Maybe the bridge is in Fife?
@fiefster, not very! I have never ever seen anyone with a speed detector on the bridge. If HGVs can access the bridge when they are barred due to high winds, then how are they going to measure a cyclists speed.
I did see a Freedom of Information request: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/imposing_speed_limits_on_cyclist#incoming-982381
Thank you for your request for information of 22/05/2017 where you asked the following:Can you advise if the council have any bylaws in place that specifically state the limit and the penalty for a cyclist breaching that limit?
Your request has been processed and considered under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and the information is provided below.
No, there are no such bylaws in place.
Looks like the same guy has pretty much put the same request in across all the Scottish councils.
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