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  1. gibbo
    Member

    Interesting question in a guardian headline:

    "What all urban planners should be asked: would you let your child cycle here?"

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jun/15/urban-planners-let-child-cycle-here-denmark

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. neddie
    Member

    Interesting. Only today I was reading the Wikipedia article about dogfooding.

    This is where a company tests their own products on itself. E.g. Apple computer staff only using Apple computers.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    "I love to cycle. I’ve got no clue why,” says IWRATS, a middle-aged Scottish erratic.

    Studies show 99% of the Danish population consider themselves to be cyclists and learned to ride a bike before they were 10 years old.

    It's like being trolled by the country we could have been.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    To a large extent, urban planners can only do what elected politicians want them to. The vast majority know the problems with our cities and are only too aware of what is going on in Scandinavia. A prime example can be found in The Guardian article itself. It mentions Jan Gehl, what it doesn't tell you is that his right hand man of many years, David Sim, is from Linlithgow and studied at the Edinburgh College of Art.

    In short - it's the politicians wot done it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. paddyirish
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    This is where a company tests their own products on itself. E.g. Apple computer staff only using Apple computers.

    John Gummer was 25 years ahead of that - getting his daughter to eat British Beef?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. Ed1
    Member

    Unlike for example.....Tony Blair and the MMR jab who opted to use the British public as a test bed with no confirmed in house testing

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    Reminds me of Thomas Midgley trying out Tetra-ethyl lead (TEL - the lead that was used in petrol) on himself, knowing full well about its toxicity:

    On October 30, 1924, Midgley participated in a press conference to demonstrate the apparent safety of TEL. In this demonstration, he poured TEL over his hands, then placed a bottle of the chemical under his nose and inhaled its vapor for sixty seconds, declaring that he could do this every day without succumbing to any problems whatsoever

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Tetraethyllead may have had a remarkable effect on society;

    http://nebula.wsimg.com/422bf977bd49967644ae8b1a0a047ded?AccessKeyId=0C0B5E388F2FB5E1BB9B&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. cb
    Member

    "E.g. Apple computer staff only using Apple computers."

    That explains a lot about the iPhone.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Christ. One man responsible for TEL and CFCs. Polio may have done the world a favour by taking him out when it did.

    'Bill Bryson remarked that Midgley possessed "an instinct for the regrettable that was almost uncanny."'

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    The most shocking thing about the whole TEL saga is that the manufacturers knew all along how harmful it was and that there was a simple alternative - Ethanol (or ordinary alcohol).

    Except Ethanol was not patent-able like TEL and hence not profitable...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    I'd never heard of Midgely before. From that Wikipedia article:

    J. R. McNeill, an environmental historian, opined that Midgley "had more impact on the atmosphere than any other single organism in Earth's history"

    Posted 6 years ago #

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