Not good. Hope she makes a quick recovery.
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"Cyclist hospitalised after bus collision on tram tracks"
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Posted 6 years ago #
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Enough already. Sort this junction. Start building segregation.
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The top-line:
"A CYCLIST who collided with a bus after..."
So already apportioning blame to the victim?
How about:
"A driver whose bus was following a cyclist hit the cyclist after..."
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A CYCLIST who collided with a bus after getting her bicycle wheels caught in tram tracks has been hospitalised.
Can anyone imagine how scared she must have been? Abject terror I'd have thought. I really hope she's back on her bike soon.
Will we get another meeting with Mr Yusaf for this one maybe? Maybe not, eh?
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@nedd1e_h Not only apportioning blame but making no sense in the process:
"A CYCLIST who collided with a bus after getting her bicycle wheels caught in tram tracks has been hospitalised."
She collided with the bus by being stuck still? How did that happen then?
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My experience of getting my front wheel stuck is that you get thrown off the bike. So possibly she was launched into the side(?) of a bus... Hardly "collided with" mind.
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After the recent horrors a friend recounted how he pushed himself away from the side of a bus when this happened to him (in this very spot). He avoided serious injury thanks to the sharp reactions of an oncoming motorist but the bike went under the bus wheels and was totalled.
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And another thing. Given that women aren't anywhere near half of the urban cycle population of Edinburgh, what are the chances of the two latest victims being young females?
Is the design of the West End somehow putting female cyclists at greater risk of death and injury?
Posted 6 years ago # -
"Tail Gaiting Bus wipes out Cyclist after Tram tracks trap Cyclist and force an emergency stop!
Posted 6 years ago # -
Dockless is definitely the way to go ....but not sure we want this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/17/chinese-discard-hundreds-of-cycles-for-hire-in-giant-pile
Posted 6 years ago # -
However, Conservative group leader Iain Whyte said council chiefs hadn’t done enough to publicise an alternative route along George Street.
Mr Whyte said: “There is a dedicated cycle path running along George Street that is clearly a safer option without the danger of running into any trams.”
“However the council have done nothing to remind cyclists of this, particularly those new to the city, so barely any road users know that it’s there.”
I never knew about this dedicated cycle path on George Street. I know there is.some paint on the road that is usually covered by parked cars.
Posted 6 years ago # -
@Stickman
Let's just pray that Mr Whyte never learns of the Great East West Teleportation Alternative.
CYCLISTS DISMOUNT AND TELEPORT.
Posted 6 years ago # -
@IWRATS
what are the chances of the two latest victims being young females?
Reasonable. If 30% of cyclists using that junction are female, then it would be 9%. Low, but not unusually low.
(Statistically, you'd look for under 5%.)
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Mr Whyte said: “There is a dedicated cycle path running along George Street that is clearly a safer option without the danger of running into any trams.”
OK, I'll bite ... how do I get from the bottom of Lothian Rd to, say, Waterloo Place, without crossing tram tracks?
Posted 6 years ago # -
I was wondering the route from RSA to Rutland Square.
I think one starts by walking bike across Princes Street and Hanover Street and probably travel equivalent to three sides of square rather than direct route along Princes Street. Oh and also have to contend with lots of cobbles. Is this really a good alternative route?
Posted 6 years ago # -
Re Evening News link posted by chdot
Anyone else feel that Spokes go out of their way to praise the council for things that, in any civilised city would be regarded as below even minimum expectations?
e.g. "The council have taken steps to improve road conditions for cyclists, particularly in areas with an increased risk through road markings at Haymarket..."
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@gibbo, but it's true. They're just very small steps.
Meanwhile you get chumps like the one K just tweeted about, parking on footways and blocking cycle paths, and completely getting away with it.
Posted 6 years ago # -
"Anyone else feel that Spokes go out of their way to praise the council for things that, in any civilised city would be regarded as below even minimum expectations?"
Spokes tries to see the positive in what the Council/Gov does.
The belief is that it encourages/supports 'cycling' when there are elements (officials/councillors) who would rather not do anything - especially if/when 'cyclists just complain'.
This certainly means that Spokes has welcomed things like the QBiC, which are far from good.
I think a lot of the change in attitude in recent years is due to the existence/success of PoP - partly by demonstrating that lots of people want things to be much matter and also because there are now more people willing to campaign/contact councillors/go to CCs/organise rides/vigils etc.
Spokes is far from just complimentary though, and has always been critical of many aspects of design/implementation (particularly with the tram).
The main problem is that there is no easy/quick fix. If the threat of very expensive lawsuits, a death and Chris Oliver (and a meeting with the minister) don't make CEC act then, sadly, Spokes is unlikely to have much impact - even if 'nasty' rather than nice!
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I've always thought of Spokes and PoP as complements. Spokes focus on (at times punitive levels of) detail and PoP does MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER NOW.
I'm more of a PoP type than a Spokes type, but we need both.
I do though wish other Spokes people would give quotes to the press. Not everyone is born to give good copy.
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"I'm more of a PoP type than a Spokes type, but we need both."
Yes.
Posted 6 years ago # -
I'm more of a PoP type than a Spokes type, but we need both.
I'd definitely agree we need something.
My feeling is Spokes gives politicians the praise the politicians want - and legitimacy to the pretence they're doing something - in return for very little.
In which case, they may well be letting politicians off the hook, rather than putting pressure on them.
Posted 6 years ago # -
@Arellcat
Meanwhile you get chumps like the one K just tweeted about, parking on footways and blocking cycle paths, and completely getting away with it.
Who is K?
(And what's their twitter handle? I'll give them a retweet.)
Posted 6 years ago # -
Possibly this one -
https://twitter.com/cocteautriplets/status/886226836191150080
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