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"Edinburgh drivers crawl through their commute at just 6.64mph"
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Posted 7 years ago #
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So if it turns out that next year's data shows the 20mph limits haven't greatly reduced average commuter times, will Nick Cook stop opposing them?
Posted 7 years ago # -
I have a meeting across town at 10h00, it's 09h06 and I've not showered yet.
No problem.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@Frenchy:
I wonder if his opposition is so consistent so that he has something to show for the next round of Holyrood/Westminster candidate interviews.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Nick Cook isn't demonstrating a huge amount of intelligence or ability to absorb and understand data. Still - doesn't seem necessary to enter politics.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"doesn't seem necessary to enter politics."
No, all that is necessary is to have "positions" on issues that chime with target voters' preconceptions and biases. Stick to the guns, and the candidate may be elected...
Posted 7 years ago # -
See "we're doomed" thread...
Snatching lunch during a course, so don't have the link to hand.
Providing more and more evidence may not actually change Nick's mind.
Robert
Posted 7 years ago # -
He said he's buying a bike. Anyone want to take him through the worst bits of town at rush hour?
Posted 7 years ago # -
Just because Cllr Cook's views are unpopular in these parts, doesn't mean that he deserves a death sentence! Don't subject a novice cyclist to those bad bits of Edinburgh city centre, or you'll have it on your conscience.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@crowriver So does that mean those of us who do travel the worst bits of town in rush hour do deserve a death sentence?
Posted 7 years ago # -
@dougal, that's not what I said and you know it. However experienced cyclists can make a more informed choice as to whether to ride in those places or not. Personally I prefer to avoid whenever possible.
Posted 7 years ago # -
I don't understand why Cllr Cook SHOULDN'T be taken through the worst bits of town for cycling in. Why shield him from experiencing what others have to - surely he needs to see what the reality is for people on bikes?
I have a feeling that many of our politicians would have a complete change of heart if they were forced to cycle every day for a few months and put up with the danger, the threats, the abuse, the close-passes, the hurling of items, the spitting, the assualts, the deliberate 'nudges', the SMIDSYS, the SMIDGAFs etc etc etc.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Aye, all true. But a dead councillor can't effectively lobby for change.
Posted 7 years ago # -
But a dead (cycling) councillor may elicit more lobbying action from his/her colleagues to improve the roads as a result of that death than a dead non-councillor would.... ;-)
Posted 7 years ago # -
Possibly not the best place to put this, but it goes some way towards explaining why drivers are willing to put up with congested commutes and the relatively slow progress of the government in making progress to reduce the number of private vehicles... I just overheard a conversation between a guy from the Scottish Government and one of my colleagues in which he was incredulous to learn that my colleague cannot drive and does not commute from Dalry to Heriot-Watt by car despite the fact that she lives by a bus route that takes her directly to and from the campus.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@@threefromleith
I don't understand why Cllr Cook SHOULDN'T be taken through the worst bits of town for cycling in. Why shield him from experiencing what others have to
I'd go further. I think it should be compulsory.
Politicians should have to live with what they force on others. And, it gets them out their bubble and let them see how others live.
So I'd make it a rule that, for 3 months of the year, every able bodied councillor has to use bikes as his/her main form of transport.
(That's just the tip of the iceberg of my insanity. I'd also ban MPs from sending kids to private schools, having private healthcare, and insist they live in a council house for 3 months - otherwise they can't be MPs.)
Posted 7 years ago # -
jdanielp, perhaps SG guy thought she lived in the other Dalry.
Posted 7 years ago # -
SG guy? Elected, or official? Either way there should be some propaganda/training within SG to help them get with the Active Travel programme. 2020 is quite close now. I can't see why anyone in SG should think it sensible to do that journey by car. Does show how far Edinburgh (and Scotland) has to go to change its baked in ideas.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"Does show how far Edinburgh (and Scotland) has to go to change its baked in ideas."
Oh aye. We can see this in every walk of life. The mainstream is driving everywhere, unfortunately. Plenty of folk don't think that way but are still a minority, even in Edinburgh (Glasgow too, but not having a car is associated with low incomes there). Outside Edinburgh, people think you're daft if you don't have a car.
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