People's, what is the general rule regarding dogs? Recently , near forth bridges are, on small unclassified road, very quiet, approaching group of pedestrians, slowing down and allowing freewheel to click , a woman was pretty upset at having to stop and refer her her somewhat bouncy canine charge. In fact as I very gently came to a smiley stop she glowered at me and very " teacheresque"( please feel free to insert whichever authoritative figure that causes least offence ! ) just wait a minute! I was already stationary and removing my smile, I said in my best dripping sarcasm , thank you as I left the situation . Am I right in thinking that the fault was hers, as well as the poor manners! Should the dog have been on a restrictive lead?
Ps in best " snatch " vernacular, I lik dags!
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Posted 7 years ago #
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I think this is like the bell rule, where some people are unhappy whatever you do. Most of my bike / dug interactions are positive but there's always the odd person who thinks you intend to leave tyre marks all over the top of their hound. However if very lucky everyone stops and there are some clapping opportunities (there's a Rhodesian Ridgeback on the WoL path near the modern art gallery sometimes who really likes meeting people).
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Anyone whos idea of fun is picking up warm animal jobby in a biodegradeable bag cant be trusted.
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“Am I right in thinking that the fault was hers, as well as the poor manners!”
I’d say so.
“Should the dog have been on a restrictive lead?”
Well -
Legally probably not.
Generally there is a notion that ‘dogs should be under control’, which as a minimum I would say means it does what it’s told.
If it doesn’t, that really is the owner’s fault and a lead needs to be used when there are likely to undesirable interactions with other road/path users.
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Been particularly bad recently- a number of OOC dogs and one bad case where I was riding with a friend and he spotted a lead going across the cycle path. neither dog (behind bushes on RHS, nor owner - standing chatting half way up a flight of steps perpendicular to the path on LHS were visible. The owner finished his conversation, said "thank you for stopping" as if we had a choice, and we kept our (Rule 2 -breaking) opinions to ourselves until we were out of earshot.
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As a dug-lover, I'd say she was rude but that's about it. I generally smile at the dug rather than the human. The humans seem to like that a lot.
I got swarmed by 4 ankle biter sized dugs a week or so ago at Porty. I was sat watching the waves having finished my cake and this lot broke away from the massive group they were with. Some sort of doggy daycare, I assume. The number of humans didn't seem enough to observe the number of off-lead canines. Anyway, the 4 assorted terriers showed great interest in my bike (and attempting to pee on it) and were not for shooing. I didn't want to stand up and really shoo them for fear of being viewed as a dog-hating cyclist. It took at least 5 mins before they were noted as missing from the pack and called away. Bugged me no end. I wasn't feart of them, just annoyed, but others could be.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"there is a notion that ‘dogs should be under control’" probably comes from the HW Code Rule 56:
Dogs. Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders.
There is no legal requirement for a dog to be kept on a lead on a public right of way but cyclists have been awarded compensation when OOC dogs have caused an accident.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Dugs arnt really my problem , as long as they do as their told, there fine , people who don't pay my wages telling me what to do.............
another matter !!Posted 7 years ago # -
@splitshift, LOT OF positive interaction with dog owners with errant pets on WoL path recently.
I wait for them like you did, I smile, the dog zig zags in front of me, I smile we part on good terms.
However, I can do all of that and still get an ear bashing off some dog walker having a Bd day. I then do what you did and say Don't mention it
Posted 7 years ago # -
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Not all dog owners have their pet under control
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Posted 7 years ago # -
I think on almost any road the dog should be on a lead. But never one of those sh*tey extending leads. On shared paths, I don't mind free roaming dogs, they're not that unpredictable ... so long as the owners don't call them back (or cross over themselves in front of me) at inopportune moments. And those sh*tey extending leads infuriate me on shared paths!
Posted 7 years ago # -
These "professional dug walkers" only serve to enable people to keep dugs who shouldn't really keep dugs.
Posted 7 years ago # -
I don't know what the "rules" are, but my logic tells me only an idiot would walk their dog untethered along a road.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"I don't mind free roaming dogs"
I feel sorry for dogs being taken for walks on country paths, on leads.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"There is no legal requirement for a dog to be kept on a lead on a public right of way but cyclists have been awarded compensation"
Sloppy journalism woman paid an out of court settlement .
This was an out of court settlement, someone could choose to do this because legal advice suggest sensible, may lose or cost more etc, or because does not want the hassle stress etc, it may be the woman paid or the person whos dog felt obliged to pay something on behalf of the old woman a number of reasons but either way no “legal president” as judge had no bearing on the decision no case law aspect. Someone could could make an out of court settle on a case that would they would win in theory.
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"I feel sorry for dogs being taken for walks on country paths, on leads."
Do you feel sorry for savaged sheep? Depending on the dog/owner/training, a lead might be the only option.
Posted 7 years ago # -
I feel sorry for dogs being taken for walks on country paths, on leads.
Depends very much on the dog, of course. My dog's prey drive is too strong to trust him off the lead in any situation. If he saw anything he thinks is edible (cats, squirrels, rabbits, deer...), he'd be off, and he wouldn't be coming back.
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