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Holyrood Park: paths, crossings and closures
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Posted 11 months ago #
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@ejstubbs. I also found it hard to distinguish between the various objectives/strategies etc and decide on a priority, the implication, I suppose, if an objective is selected by respondents as a 7 then HES may ignore that.
I found the template Spokes response quite handy and was a good basis for ordering priorities and adding extra information. It can be summed up as: shut the through roads and open Radical Road path.
Posted 11 months ago # -
@ DuddingstonDomestique: Thanks, I'll have another last go using that as a template.
Posted 11 months ago # -
@ejstubbs: Get rid of the through motor traffic and the metal security fencing, do your best to protect the wellbeing of the plants and animals that live there, and help people to understand and respect the place when they go there.
It's all a bit Richmond Park in London, full of deer, people on bikes, mental drivists, and equally mental pro-motoring policing.
Posted 11 months ago # -
https://www.historicenvironment.scot/about-us/news/a-new-future-for-edinburghs-holyrood-park/
While the Plan does not cover rock risk, specialist geotechnical engineers have completed a re-assessment of risk and potential mitigating measures in relation to parts of the Radical Road and other areas. HES plans to improve access in spring 2025, where this can be done safely, at the southern end from the Hawse to the northern end of South Quarry. This area includes Hutton’s Section and Hutton’s Rock, together with the quarry in which climbing is permitted.
However:
The Strategic Plan does not include the final Movement Strategy for the Park, which is still being developed in collaboration with The City of Edinburgh Council and will align to their City Mobility Plan 2030. Additional, detailed surveys are required to inform the plans for future traffic movement and active travel, ensuring a sustainable future for the Park.
Posted 2 months ago # -
So, Historic Environment Scotland can immediately fence off a historic trail in case some gets hurt...but is happy to maintain high-speed through traffic in the park for years so some paperwork can be done.
Posted 2 months ago # -
I've had a lot of trouble with temporary closures in the park affecting cycle access. For the Marathon and Beltane festivals access has been prevented during the evening commute period with no prior notice or diversion. The offroad path is the only to the city east, and cycling in busy diverted traffic on Horse Wynd is not something many will accept.
It seems the extent of the closures to cycles isn't being fully established by HES at event application stage. There is also a Core Path running through the park, which HES claim is not a right of way as Holyrood Park is exempt, yet Scotways advise a Section 11 order is required (similar to Radical Road).
On submitting a complaint, they have made their website page more visible but continue to plan a closure to cycles from 4pm on October 31st.
This will be more of a problem if the plans to close the road to Cars goes ahead. Will cycles be prevented from using the road every time there is an event?
Posted 2 months ago # -
Finally the park have acknowledged they don't have the direct power to close the core path to pedestrians and cycles for events.
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) acknowledges that a Section 11 exemption notice would be required to close or restrict access to the Core Path route which enters the Park at Dumbiedykes pedestrian entrance before following the Queen’s Drive, Galloping Glen to exit the Park at either Horse Wynd or following the Back Walk to exit onto Croft An Righ Lane. We would expect an event organiser wishing to close or restrict this route to follow the appropriate procedure and would encourage the event organiser to engage with the relevant community or public forums prior to doing so.
In respect of the need to apply for a Section 11 exemption out with this specific Core Path route, there is no requirement for an application to be made in the circumstances discussed. As you may be aware, access rights are not exercisable on land where public access is prohibited, excluded or restricted by other statute(s) (s6(1)(d) of the 2003 Act). Therefore, where access has been restricted pursuant to statute (i.e. the 1971 Regulations), access rights under the 2003 Act will not apply. On that basis, no application under section 11 is required. This is consistent with the City of Edinburgh Council’s own guidance which notes that Section 11 exemptions would not normally be used "where access is already restricted by other measures such as byelaws.”.
Hopefully there will be access via Croft-an-Righ for people heading home on Samhuinn. Last year was a real mess, with security telling people to go cycle on the gridlocked main road in the dark.
Posted 1 month ago # -
First(?) cycleway diversion for a Holyrood park event has been confirmed on their page: https://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/holyrood-park/external-event-notices/ and it will now be from 5pm instead of 4pm.
It's not perfect, but I think not having to makea right turn under the railway bridge at Abbeyhill will make a big difference https://i.imgur.com/Et6u8Cy.jpeg
The Holyrood Park Strategic Plan says they want Active Travel to be the main method of transit in the park... hopefully they mean this.
Posted 1 month ago #
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