5 Ways junction to Lower Granton Road opened again some days ago.
Not quite sure what they achieved, though; a lot of hard core stuff was put on top of the other hard core at the side of the path, with the big puddle usually found on one side of the path ... err ... still there - but now with barriers round it ! Might have been some re-surfacing in the tunnel, which wasn't really necessary last time I was running along-and-back it during a snow shower a month or so ago.
So some money well spent there, then.
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Resurfacing of NEPN
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Posted 6 years ago #
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I imagine contractors must rub their hands together with glee when they land a CEC contract - they must know they'll be held to zero quality standards or indeed probably be subject to virtually no checking at all.
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Also, at Queensferry Rd (Roseburn path), they’ve put some gravel down at the sides directly under the bridge, but nothing done on the flooding by the platform
Still early days, but not looking promising
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Better get some before & after pics before it’s too late
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I am perhaps being a bit unkind here but it was closed for a month for what looks like very little improvement.
Also there is now loads of stones on the path (probably caused by their vehicles) which is a skid risk.
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I might not understand properly what they are doing, but it looks to me as they are doing the same thing as last time: digging a trench and filling it with gravel. At the moment, it's done on one side, with part of the trench still empty. Yesterday, they pumped water out of it all day and it seemed dry at the end of the afternoon, but this morning it was full of water to the brim again, so, not sure it works well...
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Not much use building a drainage ditch below the water table, if that's the case it needs a proper outflow to a surface drain
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“Not much use building a drainage ditch below the water table”
I’m sure the drainage would have worked during the many years it was a railway.
There will be plans somewhere (West Register House?) of the line.
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The railway has exactly the same problem:
Minor: https://twitter.com/neilsonvonp/status/799923538157248512
Moderate: https://twitter.com/mark_rookes/status/870693655408910337
Bad: https://twitter.com/TimNortonEA/status/800999009284300800Cuttings are often the lowest point in an area and passive drainage can silt up a lot over the years. Field runoff is a big issue particularly when a farmer runs a pipe to the railway boundary to mitigate their own flooding.
Solutions are either installing a static pump (cheap upfront, with upkeep cost) or digging in a gravity drain to the nearest suitable outflow (disruptive/expensive but passive)
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I believe they are putting drainage crates in the ditches, presumably to act as a soakaway. It's not clear whether this is what they are also doing in the cutout areas they have made on the verge in various places. I don't recall seeing these on any of the plans.
I also haven't seen any drainage crates on site when passing either in the ditches or stacked on site so who knows...
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A conspiracy theory ; putting drainage ditches in the grassy knoll to keep the tram dry
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There's a big pile of drainage creates at the works compound near the Craigleith junction.
I can see how they might help with spots where puddles form after heavy rain but under the Queensferry Road bridge the water seeps out the ground like a spring pretty much permanently. As @Klaxon says that's going to need some kind of active drainage to an outflow.
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Parking space.
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Archeology? Checking out substructure for a tram? Hard standing for the Bike Station repair service that sometimes appears at the junction?
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There was a wee pump running underneath Queensferry Road this morning.
Method of work appears to be:
1: scrape off turves
2: block off with Heras fencing
3: dig out small hole
4: leave some fencing in a position which looks like they might be trying to close off the path north of Ravelston Dykes at some point
4: fill holes with gravel using a giant path-blocking dumptruck
5: leave some drainage crates in a pile half a mile to the south"Checking out substructure for a tram?"
There's still a wee annoying bit at the corner of the Roseburn path just before heading north over West Coates where they bored an hole sometime in 2005 prior to the tramworks.
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I think there are plans for benches to be installed along the NEPN so my guess is that the marked out rectangles are for bench foundations.
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There are 100 benches planned to
ensure the budget is all used upgive us softy cyclists places to rest cos we asked for them, not! Handy points for the Drylaw Massive to hang out, body-bomb or clothesline us. 10 standings for benches have been dug out/hardcored.
There is now a moratorium on the benches for 2 weeks while residents/police are consulted. So 2 weeks for the loose Type 1 MOT hardcore to be used against everyone, as happened a few years ago.Posted 6 years ago # -
Benches occurred to me as well. But seriously? They really are trying to encourage anti-social behaviour given some of the places they have put them. Which idiot thought this one up?
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Are the benches under the bridges, 100 benches they may be trying to reduce cyclists to make way for tram-)
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I loved the way they seem to have finished the drainage works under the bridge at Queensferry Road and put up little kerbs along the edges of the path....
..... which are holding in the water which is slowly filling the path under the bridge from the untouched drainage problem just a few feet further away!
I hope they fix that before they finish, otherwise the main path-flooding problem will be as bad as it was before these remedial works and the previous remedial works!
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As noted above, not much actual resurfacing seems to have been done, at least not from WoL by Warriston along to Silverknowes. A bit of straightening out of kinks just after the red bridge and before an old railway bridge. Some drainage work looks like it's happened, especially under bridges.
Main real improvement I've noticed is through St Mark's Path: lovely smooth surface down to the WoL path now. Great enhancement to comfort and safety: can't understand why it took so long!
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Yeah.
My comment to the active travel team at their stand at five-ways, when asked about whether the "share the space signs were working" was, "the path needs to be double the width with a segregation line down the middle, like they would do in Holland and there is plenty of space to do that"
Pathetic amount of work done for £0.9million. CEC got ripped off again.
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WoL by St Marks stills has lots of paint marks indicating work not yet done. Chancelot/WoL junction was scraped off last night, with SLOW signs.
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@wingpig, that's encouraging. That bit of WoL could do with a resurface. Hopefully they'll improve sightlines at the junction with Chancelot too? One can only hope...
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I notice they seem to have avoided fixing the path at the only place it regularly floods on the approach to the Red Bridge heading Leithwards. *slow handclap*
Still, they seem to have spent most of their cycling budget cash on digging out sections to put benches in. That REALLY helps encourage people to get on their bikes, right enough.
I'd rather they'd spent it resurfacing more of the awful NEPN surfaces - but I suppose they need to get the cash to give the local feral youth something new to trash from somewhere, and it won't be coming from their road budget!
*wanders off, grumbling to himself*
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I forget, but is there a "cycling budget" or just an "active travel budget"?
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This week they've been widening the entrance on Warriston Road and dropping the kerb. They also fixed a sunken drain cover nearby. The strange combination of gates near Tesco hasn't returned. There is paint marking a desire line towards the Warriston Crescent exit. Hopefully more to come there.
Does anyone know if that "small cycling wins" brainstorm site was used as inspiration? I've noticed a few things which were on it.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Spokes met with Active Travel team the other day. NEPN work is not finished yet.
The "Access controls" are all improvements rather than increased deterrents.
A list of what was in scope was requested (again!).
@Frenchy - I think it is an active travel budget
@Rob - where would that "List of small things" be? Active Travel have additional resource starting soon who will pick up the "Small projects" works.
The Team are going to be maintaining an on-line list of projects, hopefully accessible via a map of current/committed projects. They are constructing a (I think rolling) 5-year plan and will be revisiting the Active Travel Action Plan later in the year.
Meanwhile we should be able to get a list of current projects - it's basically as per the list that was shared in response to Chas's question to Full Council re project delays.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ox7ADCDmgpZhix5hCCQIKB7DEvjz2A0jDmT0c49pHTw/edit?usp=sharingPosted 6 years ago # -
For your small/not requiring statutory orders things list:
Widening and sealed surfacing of the path between St Mark's Bridge, "new" flats bridge, and Warriston Rd
Creation of a new path to same standard on the desire line between the "new" flats bridge and the play park
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9679914,-3.1940795,195m/data=!3m1!1e3
Both would have been nice to have had picked up under the current project
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