@frenchy, did not zoom in, sorry, just looked at the blue circles and the lack of blue circles beyond the bypass, mea culpa
CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Debate!
"walking is being “championed” by the Scottish Government" (with thread drift)
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@gembo
Nicola should enforce weightlifting on her subjects. She should ban all diversions - internet, boxed sets - that distract from our 5kg sessions at the gym. Very useful for future punch-ups at England v Scotland matches."Archery was hugely popular in the UK both as a pursuit, sport - hunting for meat, rabbit and small game, supposedly excluding boar and deer in the Royal Forests of England, and could be a shortcut to riches - a groat (4d) up to 6d a day and the chance to a share of 'ransoms and spoils of war' for any Archer good enough to be called up ('the posse comitatus') for military campaigns, especially against our old adversary, French!
Practice at 'the butts', usually located near the local parish Church, which was the centre of most social activity during medieval times, was initially a voluntary occurrence in all English & Welsh towns and villages as men, young and old, would test their bow kills at regular weekly meetings.
Then in the late 1470 - someone invented an early form of what we might call cricket and in 1477 Edward IV found it necessary to ban this game because it began interfering with regular archery practice."
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@Stickman - Overpass/OSM is really useful for stuff like this. Worth playing around with - the correct syntax isn't always obvious, but I generally find I can cobble together what I want by altering the examples.
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@rosie, agreed, see also golf in Scotland as a distraction from civil rectitude in fifteenth century
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@gembo - Only the fifteenth century? It's still a distraction from civil and social responsibility.
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“someone invented an early form of what we might call cricket”
Depends which bit of the Internet you study...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempts_to_ban_football_games
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“still a distraction from civil and social responsibility”
That’s an interesting discussion point.
It might appear that rulers wanted preparing for war/defence to be “civil and social responsibility”, but perhaps people preferred bread and (slightly) less combative entertainments?
Is it clear when ‘activities’ (enforced or otherwise) moved more to spectating than participating?
Presume both always happened, Romans keen on spectacles.
Don’t suppose there was much ‘go and see the gladiators and try a bit of legacy spin-off at home’(?)
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mechanical diggers be banned in towns and cities
Perhaps Elon Musk should be made to dig his own tunnels? Maybe he wouldn't then be so keen on using them for the least space-efficient forms of transport?
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Factors conspired in the fifteenth century to allow the yeomen some time off? The yeowomen and serfs had Less opportunity (but still some). Sport became something possible. For example those who survived the Black Death could command more wages and then someone with more leisure time starts inventing games instead of just boring military practise.?
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@ g
I’m sure there are CCEers who are experts on medieval history.
So I’ve altered the title of this thread...
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So I’ve altered the title of this thread...
Is that really a precedent you want to set?
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If you're going to start updating thread titles to reflect drift there are going to be some very interesting (and long) titles appearing.
(do it!)
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@frenchy, I think this is a one-off caused by abundance of bonhomie early in the new year and unlikely to be repeated
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@gembo
If wee romani boys/romani pueri didn't play at being gladiators I'll eat my gladium.Don't mind football & cricket, just the monocultural grass space stealing golf ballers I object to. Also gets them into bad company...
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@ g
Sometimes you’re so in tune.
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“the monocultural grass space stealing golf ballers I object to”
Well, golf playing is in decline.
CEC should have the nerve to repurpose some of its golf greenery.
Personally I’d start with this one. StreetView.
Large bit of publicly owned space near various residential neighbourhoods, well connected by paths.
Could retain half the holes, have more room for allotments, scope for a ‘forest play area’, remodel part as a BMX track.
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@Rosie: Would like a trolley on wheels - like your mum I'd like something jazzy.
This any good, or too Scandi minimalist?
At least it's cheap enough to bling up any way you fancy without being too out of pocket if you manage to ruin it in the process.
(42litres is roughly two Ortliebs, isn't it?)
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@chdot: There's already a skate/BMX park less than a mile away in Saughton public park, isn't there? It seems to be being used by a fair few BMXers whenever I ride past, anyway.
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@chdot
Braids 2 has largely been allowed to re-wild. There are bear and lynx where once there was plaid. It was unplayable anyway so no great loss.
Golf should only be played on natural links ground, obviously. Carrick Knowe as a cyclo-cross park appeals.
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@Frenchy, at the default zoom level it looks like the circles have a diameter of one mile rather than radius?
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@cb, yes, you are correct.
Sorry, my fault, I was thinking of round trips being less than one mile and wrote completely the wrong thing.
Zoom
inout one level to get radius=1 mile.EDIT: Zoom OUT one level. Or use this version: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ugL
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“There's already a skate/BMX park less than a mile away“
Yes, I mean a BMX race track.
CEC hasn’t had one for years. I thought the news that it was going to be an Olympic sport would energise someone in the Council, but it didn’t energise the right people. I don’t expect things to change.
“Carrick Knowe as a cyclo-cross park appeals“
Big enough space for all sorts of things.
Certainly could be better than Inch Park.
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@ejstubbs - yes, Ikea does have jazzy shopping bags. Mebbe will go for the retro Scottish look of tartan though
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Certainly could be better than Inch Park
Indeed. Craigmillar Hill though...imagine.
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“Craigmillar Hill though...imagine.”
Presume you are aware it has been used for races?
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Oh yes. Night time Haloween cyclo cross great fun.
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"cutdown corduroy knickerbocker things"
Breeches. You mean walking breeches. My mum also made me a pair of these from some cords (trousers). Walked over the Lake District in them aged 16, carrying tent, sleeping bag, etc. in an external frame rucksack (bright orange nylon). Needed long wool or terry towelling socks to just below the knee. Check shirt and big Shetland wool crew neck fisherman's jumper also apparently de rigeur.
I have actually purchased a couple of pairs of similar breeches recently (NOS) made by Craghoppers in the late 1970s/early 1980s (when company was still making things in Hebden Bridge presumably). These are not cordouroy but a kind of tweed. I imagine they'll be okay for cycling as well as walking, Also require long wool socks to just below the knee...
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“Craigmillar Hill though...imagine.”
Presume you are aware it has been used for races?
Only racing I've seen there is young men on the back of (presumably stolen) motor bikes/scooters racing up and down the shared use paths. Oh and the burnt-out wrecks of the previous days' steeds discarded after it runs low on petrol.
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Nearly bought pair of breeches from Tiso in 1987 but they were £72, I did covet them but not that much. Fabric very dense and maybe waterproof. Like slightly longer lederhosen
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@crowriver and again: we need to see some photographs. Think of them as evidence. Or perhaps a warning...
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