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The future is bright. The future is automatic.

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  • Started 6 years ago by I were right about that saddle
  • Latest reply from Rosie

  1. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    This is the future the prime minister would like us to be excited about;

    Imagine a world in which self-driving cars radically reduce the number of deaths on our roads.

    Haud me back somebody, please.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. Rosie
    Member

    It's always the technical fix, never the political decision.

    I see that Christian Wolmar's Driverless cars: On a road to nowhere is coming out in February.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. unhurt
    Member

    Did anyone link this already?

    Destroying the city to save the robocar: The fight for our public space

    "Dealing with pedestrians safely is difficult, expensive, and culturally alien to the nerds building the cars; Melissa Cefkin at Nissan is a rare anthropologist in the business.

    "The randomness of the environment such as children or wildlife cannot be dealt with by today's technology," admits Volvo's director of autonomous driving, Markus Rothoff. The driverless car can't hear you scream. Tests are not being conducted in real pedestrian-congested conditions.

    The cheat is: just get rid of the people around cars, so you don't need to solve these problems."

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Rosie
    Member

    It's always daft to predict the shape of the future via new inventions. The digital revolution has changed our lives dramatically (eg posting here) but not turned us into cyborgs getting our nourishment via pills.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    @IWRATS, "“[The speech] was literally artificial intelligence,” said an official from an EU country."

    The driverless Prime Minister is proof that the whole thing is a bad idea.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    @unhurt, "If we want walkable urbanism (and we should), we will have to make a stand."

    Yep.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Rosie
    Member

    Self-driving cars - the all purpose transport solution. Built on Silicon enthusiasm and easy money.

    https://amp.ft.com/content/80db549c-111c-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277?__twitter_impression=true

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Rosie
    Member

    More and more bizarre:-

    "The Dutch government is working with Germany and Belgium on establishing “truck platooning” – where one human-driven vehicle leads a convoy of autonomous ones — on major roads.

    Under the plans, about 100 driverless trucks would drive the “Tulip corridors” at night – from Amsterdam to Antwerp, and from Rotterdam to the Ruhr valley – fully maximising the routes through which the Netherlands distributes its goods using 5G technology and 1,200 smart traffic lights."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/13/bikes-put-spanner-in-works-of-dutch-driverless-car-schemes?CMP=share_btn_tw

    When I was wee I'd make a line of chairs and drive the front one making choo-choo noises. I was pretending to be a - a -a TRAIN!

    "But a report by the professional service company KPMG highlights a major problem for Dutch ministers in introducing the technology to urban centres, where the bicycle is increasingly king.

    Driverless cars detect other road users using a variety of cameras or laser-sensing systems to ensure that they stop if an object is detected in their path.

    But the varying sizes and agility of cyclists, with their sudden changes in speed and loose adherence to the rules of the road, present a major challenge to the existing technology."

    Guerrilla cycling discourages the driverlessmobile. That's encouragement to the lawless among us.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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