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Consultation: Musselburgh’s Future Sustainable and Accessible Transport Network

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  • Started 6 years ago by Schemieradge
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  1. Schemieradge
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    "East Lothian Council are developing a Masterplan for people walking, cycling and travelling sustainably in and around Musselburgh which extends into Midlothian and Edinburgh. Please find attached an image illustrating the area under consideration.

    Placecheck tool:

    Please use the following simple online map tool to give us your views – it is important that we understand the needs of the local people who will be using the network in future. We are keen to hear your views on what works, what needs improved and any opportunities you are aware of. The survey will close on 16th March. Please share and circulate this email to anyone who may be interested or affected.

    https://placecheck.info/maps/musselburgh

    Background

    We know that Musselburgh will be growing in the future and this study provides the opportunity to consider how this can be done more sustainably, without relying on private cars for journeys. The Masterplan will aim to create an accessible network around Musselburgh to suit the needs of everyone moving in and through the area and connecting into Midlothian and Edinburgh. It will also look at key spaces, such as the town centre, to consider how these places can be improved sustainably for local people and businesses, visitors, and for those who work and study in the area.

    Next Steps:

    We are planning to meet with key stakeholders to discuss the Masterplan mid-March. A public exhibition and online consultation regarding the Masterplan and details of the emerging routes will take place mid-April."

    Posted 6 years ago #

  2. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Thanks for posting that Schemie. I've added a few things. Pity the map doesn't show cycle paths though. Hard to comment on an empty area but I'll have a go.

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  3. Schemieradge
    Member

    It's getting a surprising (to me) amount of input... good to see

    Posted 6 years ago #

  4. Ed1
    Member

    http://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/16041656.Cyclist_suffers_serious_wrist_injury_in_crash/

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  5. Frenchy
    Member

    The cyclist was travelling towards Fisherrow when she was struck by the car, believed to a black Vauxhall Corsa, which failed to stop.

    Bad car!

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  6. teddybears
    Member

    Musselburgh is growing because East Lothian are permitting the construction of houses in every field possible. It is ridiculous and no new transport links to account for this unfettered development.
    Musselburgh High Street is already one long traffic jam at times

    Posted 6 years ago #

  7. neddie
    Member

    There is also a map of the Musselburgh area showing cycle routes, that came with the consultation info:

    http://www.visiteastlothian.org/assets/contentfiles/Cycling-Section1.pdf

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  8. Schemieradge
    Member

    There's now an online survey collecting feedback on a range of proposals which I think are based on the placecheck above:

    Includes lots of route maps and street cross-sections
    (if you tweet I've included a few here if you want a look:
    https://twitter.com/DaveOsborne/status/989943906614874113 )

    To me it looks quite strong with a segregated cycle route through the centre of Musselburgh right up to Wallyford and they've taken onboard feedback about the bad junctions (like the Millhill/Racecourse one).

    I wasn't so keen on the proposals for further south which seemed to rely heavily on shared use paths..

    Survey here - please fill it in if you have time:
    https://www.snapsurveys.com/wh/s.asp?k=152475504543

    Posted 6 years ago #

  9. Rob
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    The section along New High Street and the pedestrian bridge looks weak to me. The bridge is too narrow for the level of cycling a segregated route should attract. Given that one lane of the road bridge is pretty much redundant (it merges immediately after the bridge), I don't see why it wouldn't go that way.

    The shared stuff to the south looks good too, albeit for a different kind of journey. It is taking existing shared routes to Dalkeith and Pencaitland and joining them up with similar quality paths. Reinstating this bridge shouldn't be outside the realms of possibility either. For reference, this is what NCN1 does there currently: http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=15&lat=55.93059&lon=-3.0606&layers=B0000

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  10. Schemieradge
    Member

    That's a fair point about Bridge Street - it's really ridiculously wide and could be used a lot more efficiently.

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  11. Frenchy
    Member

    I hadn't realised these proposals extended into Edinburgh as well as East Lothian. This is very promising.

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  12. Rob
    Member

    There is a hell of a lot of stuff to get through. The section at Newcraighall is disappointing. Alternating between shared use and on carriageway doesn't help anyone. This section is on carriageway despite the widest footpath for miles around.

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  13. mcairney
    Member

    Personal bugbear alert but it's unclear if/what they're doing about the difficult junction at the harbour end of New St- this is a difficult right turn even for experienced cyclists and I've personally been rear-ended there (thankfully I was on my MTB at the time and the big squishy tyre absorbed most of the impact!)

    Also it's technically in Edinburgh but the Y-junction just past the Booker cash'n'carry is also scary for inexperienced/unconfident cyclists- my wife is literally terrified of it as you're forced to take up a primary position with cars potentially passing you on the left to turn left up Milton Road when going straight ahead, or avoid getting left-hooked while avoiding craters and climbing the hill if going left.

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  14. Rob
    Member

    Indeed. Also heading east at that Y-junction where 2 lanes merge just before a painted cycle lane which is permanently parked in just after a bend. Very stressful, whichever way I've approached it.

    Essentially, the section between New Street and Joppa is why I don't go to Musselburgh very often. I'd assumed it'd be another project involving Edinburgh CC but it is worth mentioning on this consultation.

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  15. Schemieradge
    Member

    @Rob - I spoke to the folk at the exhibition at the Brunton this evening about that bridge... they say there is an expectation the bridge will be replaced as part of Musselburgh's flood prevention strategy (or some such) so they'd reckon it'd end up being 3m wide.

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  16. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    I went along and added some post-its to the plans. I saw one post-it suggesting that reducing parking in the High Street would kill the businesses there. I think people shop in the High Street despite the traffic, not beacause of it.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  17. Schemieradge
    Member

    You're right.
    It's the same in Haddington - there's a fairly modest proposal to move some parking from one part of the High Street to another but the local businesses are up in arms.

    On Musselburgh, from speaking to the ELC transport planning guy in the Brunton, it sounded like a model shift to active travel was going to be their major play in the council's plan to reduce congestion in Musselburgh so I found that quite reassuring.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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