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Today's Nick Cook frothing

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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    and apparently i should "lighten up".

    because obviously i 'don't get his joke'. hope some of the cycling medics take him to task.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. Frenchy
    Member

    Made me remember this:

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    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. NiallA
    Member

    Am closing Twitter and stepping away from the laptop before I say something to him that I might regret...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    Come on Nick - you have been an adviser to a Tory leader. If Dominic Cummings can drive when half blind then a bit of cycling with a sore thumb should be nothing for a chap like you.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. CycleAlex
    Member

    Tory transport spokesman Cllr Susan Webber said the scheme had been “universally derided” and that residents would be glad to see the back of the plans for its return.
    Bit rich to have a Pentland Hills Cllr inform me that, as a city centre resident, myself and others actually didn't like Summertime Streets.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin


    “More importantly, the Council needs to better engage those running shops and other outlets throughout the city centre. They are critical to Edinburgh’s economic recovery and every effort should be made to help and support them.”

    Yeah and obviously city centre customers all arrive by car.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    Should we start a new thread - Today’s Susan Webber Warbling?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Shelved

    Mr Gold who owns a lot of shops and a lot of cars didn’t like it

    In fairness not going to be the same crowds

    But in unfairness WTAF

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. acsimpson
    Member

    @gembo: Do we need a "do we need a Susan Webber Thread?"?

    Mr Signh ...said new ideas were needed to draw local people into the city centre until international tourists returned.

    How about closing large sections of the car dominated area to make the pedestrian friendly and allow free movement of people. Or does he really mean old ideas.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    Still banging on about “Lycra louts”

    https://twitter.com/cllrnickcook/status/1269683268301000704?s=21

    I mean how? Just how? Just how does someone so biased against a particular form of transport ever get on a transport committee?

    Twitterers - do your thing...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Well of course he has a narrow focus but his tweet was in response to this -

    To the adults in all your stupid lycra going really fast on the Union Canal path grow up. Use the road you complete losers. Road bikes, you guessed it! For roads.

    So some people in lycra are (apparently) acting in ways/places ‘we’ might not approve of.

    Neither Twitter poster is actually suggesting that ‘all cyclists are like that’.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    While a man lies seriously ill in hospital, Nick Cook thinks today is the day to talk about “virtue signalling” about cycle safety. This has made me almost irrationally upset.

    Shows all you need to know about SNP run @Edinburgh_CC that Transport Convenor name checks Spokes - a cycle lobby group - but not the @FSB_Scotland or a local Traders Association.

    Shops need broadest customer base possible. Not illiberal virtue signalling banning some customers.

    https://twitter.com/cllrnickcook/status/1275348146344923136?s=21

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. Frenchy
    Member

    She literally name checked the FSB and Chamber of Commerce!

    (Caveated by the FSB saying they've not actually been contacted).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    What is this 'third way' he's an adherent to? Raving like he's drunk the QAnon Kool-Aid.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Is there a thread for this guy?

    https://twitter.com/lewisritchieIND/status/1275362232457728001

    (He agrees with Nick)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. acsimpson
    Member

    He seems like a rather confused bloke: "co-founder of the Edinburgh Party of Independent Councillors"

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. Stickman
    Member

    @acsimpson - the other members of that group left the SNP after falling out with the leaders. His reason for leaving the SNP is a bit more troubling.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Barrie and Bridgman took the hump but Ritchie left following allegations of sexual harassment he denies

    The SNP now smaller than Tories and querying Barrie and Bridgman ‘s motivations.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. Morningsider
    Member

    What is it that Nick wants? There are roughly 50 pay and display parking bays on Morningside Road. Parking is banned between 0800-0915 and 1630-1800. If each bay accommodates 10 vehicles per business day, that is 500 visits (750 people at average car occupancy) - who spend an average of 30 minutes in Morningside - any longer and the total occupancy of the bays would have to be reduced.

    There are around 115 businesses on Morningside Road - so the on-street parking can deliver an average of 6.5 customers to each business per day.

    As someone who uses that route every day, it is clear that parking use is skewed in favour of certain businesses - principally national chains such as Greggs and Sainsbury's. Some businesses may get almost no trade from drivers.

    10,000 people live within easy walking distance of Morningside town centre. The street is served by several high frequency bus routes. While I don't have access to usage data, clearly many hundreds of people use the bus to get to Morningside Road businesses every day. You only need to see how busy the stops are for such an estimate.

    I find it hard to believe that favouring the small proportion of customers who drive to Morningside above those who walk, cycle or travel by bus is good for business. Making the pavements wider and cycling easier is surely a greater business benefit. Without wider pavements, there will be no safe way for people to queue outside the many small shops in Morningside and for people to pass on foot - even if social distancing is reduced to 1m.

    I don't really believe that Nick wants to damage Morningside businesses or put people's health at risk. So what is going on here?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. acsimpson
    Member

    Either Nick hasn't actually stopped to think about it or he is convinced that the 750 people a day are exclusively voting for him.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. neddie
    Member

    Nick is simply trying to appeal to yer average car owner who thinks that being able to drive up to any shop is undoubtedly a good thing, without thinking of the bigger picture i.e. what happens when everyone does that.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    Nick rhymes with

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    Didn't Cllr Cook herald the return of Costa coffee drive throughs?

    Now the champion of local business...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. Stickman
    Member

    I stand in solidarity with local Bruntsfield and Morningside traders who've written to me concerned that proposals to remove parking provision in local high street will make trading conditions even tougher.

    They want all customers, by all modes.

    Proposals disproportionate

    https://twitter.com/cllrnickcook/status/1275830864627273745?s=21

    Maybe he can explain what measures he and businesses would support to help cyclists get to these businesses safely?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. Morningsider
    Member

    What!? If people have to queue outside of businesses on Morningside Road, then to keep even a 1m gap between the queue and pedestrians will require people to walk on the carriageway. However, the carriageway adjacent to the pavement will be full of parked cars. I can't see many people being keen to walk amongst moving traffic.

    Everyone visiting a Morningside Road business is a pedestrian at some point, even those who drive. How many potential customers would having to mix with traffic discourage? I would be willing to bet it is far more than ever arrive by car.

    This hasn't really been an issue (although the street is already too crowded and myself and family generally try and avoid walking this way) as most businesses are closed - imagine 40/50/60 separate little queues along the street. Simply not workable in its current state.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Nick and ‘his’ traders live in a world where people drive to a shop, park IMMEDIATELY outside, walk straight in and get served at once.

    (P.s. that seldom happened in the ‘50s.)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. Frenchy
    Member

    Starting to wonder if the world would be a better place if Cllr Cook does get promoted to Holyrood.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Nick seems immune to reality?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    People with similar politics specialise in alternative realities.

    (Allied with alternative facts provided by alternative (to) experts.)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. urchaidh
    Member

    The people who object loudest to not being able to park right outside of shops are not the people who actually shop there. They are people who simply don't like the idea that they won't be able to park outside if they ever did chose to do so. It's hypothetical for them.

    The one group of people you can be sure are parking outside of these shops are the owners/employees. If they were really concerned about customer parking, why would they take up a space.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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