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Avoid York Place: tram cable down. (chaos)

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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    from twitter:

    "Tram cable down at the tram stop at York Place. Avoid that route if possible as the route to town side of York Place is closed and traffic severely backing up down Leith Walk and London Road."

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. Klaxon
    Member

    Ouch, hope it wasn't a clean break. Lots of tension on the cable and if it was that'll have been a hell of a ping when it went.

    I'll go for a snoop

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    “I'll go for a snoop”

    Ah, at first I took that to be a technical term - a variation on droop, perhaps...!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. Klaxon
    Member

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. Klaxon
    Member

    The wire snapped somewhere over the junction

    Given at this point it is not a running wire, it should be easy enough to repair in situ with a joint.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. Stickman
    Member

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/york-place-tram-cabling-snaps-in-collision-with-works-vehicle-1-4738018

    "...cables above the stop on York Place came apart from the supporting pylons after a collision with a construction vehicle ..."

    I hope we get a full investigation to find out if the cable was to blame for the collision.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. wingpig
    Member

    It was already down to one lane eastbound when I went through at fourish, so there would only have been 2/3 of the potential chaos possible.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Klaxon
    Member

    The trams company has very clearly laid down process for working around the OLE: http://edinburghtrams.com/community/working-around-trams

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    A spokesperson from Edinburgh Trams said: “We can confirm that part route running to and from Edinburgh Airport and West End (Shandwick Place) will continue until the end of service tonight (Thursday, 10 May).

    So not able to isolate power to shorter sections?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. bacam
    Member

    There are no crossovers between Shandwick Place and York Place, so unless they're prepared to drive on the wrong side of the road they can't go any further.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Ah.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    From an eyewitness-

    Terrible mess up there.  The York Place bus stop at the church was closed for roadworks anyway, and now there are works vehicles all over the tram bit.  Loose cable visible, now anchored to the ground, but must have been dangerous when it snapped.  Hope they get it fixed soon, this part of Edinburgh is feeling increasingly cut off what with all that mess up there.....

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Apparently Nicola Sturgeon's down there now with a toolbox.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    I hope the construction company are sufficiently insured to compensate Edinburgh Trams for the costs of repairing the damage and income lost through disruption.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. Snowy
    Member

    The cause of the accident has been deemed to be insufficient situational awareness on the part of the cable.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. jdanielp
    Member

    I'm guessing it wasn't wearing hi-viz?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. Tulyar
    Member

    A vehicle with an extending boom left the site with the boom exceeding the 6 metre height of the OHL (knitting) Somehow oblivious to this the driver managed to carry on onto York Place with the results seen.

    Given that all trucks & buses have to clearly display the vehicle height when TRAVELLING in the cab PLUS the requirement for the vehicle's movements to be especially controlled when the vehicle height exceeds 4.88m (the height above which bridge heights are not posted (as 16ft is the limit of the envelope for normal trucks & buses - double deck buses are 14'6" - maximum - a UK derogation most of mainland Europe has 4 m limit))

    HSC will be looking closely at the St James's site gate controls & CDM documentation on dispatch of vehicles on to the public road - checking that vehicle is not overloaded or has load which is dangerously exceeding width, length or height limits for safe travel, & for variable height loads (eg excavators) the actual height is known & displayed to the driver, and the load is secured to prevent any jib or boom from rising up during the journey.

    If, as I'd suspect this was a mobile cherry picker platform, travelling with the boom extended to over 6 metres, means no outriggers extended and pads down to keep the unit stable, and this is not a safe method of operation. If the wires hadn't yielded that truck would have toppled and the outcome might have been far worse.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    HSC? CDM?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

  20. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Construction (Design & Management) Regulations; and the Health & Safety Commission (the Health and Safety Executive is the enforcement authority for the Commission).

    Posted 5 years ago #

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