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@LivD I remember those bins when I was a kid in Dalkeith in the 70s/early 80s.
We used to climb inside them when they were empty (sans black bin bag) and pretend to be Daleks. They were kept beside our big concrete coal bunkers, with their sliding concrete lids - which we used to climb inside and pretend they were spaceships :-D
http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/blog/newsblog/post/1502/new_bus_lane_cameras_operational_in_the_capital
Anyone know where the Leith one is? I'm guessing it's not covering the section of Leith Walk which is perpetually full of parked cars.
The Liberton one only covers about 30m of the Southbound lane on Liberton Road, before it vanishes into a left turn lane for Gilmerton Road, which seems kinda pointless to me?
@EDinburghCycleCam: Au contraire, it's in exactly the right place to catch left-turning drivers who can't be bothered to wait for the left turn lane to start when there's a tailback at the lights. See also Burdiehouse Road northbound at Kaimes crossroads, and Gorgie Road westbound at Chesser Avenue.
Whether it will actually help to improve the flow of traffic there I don't know, not being a regular user of that junction (and certainly not during the operational hours of the bus lane). I'd have thought that it can't hurt as measure to keep pushy left-turners away from cyclists in the bus lane (at peak times, anyway - which are the times when pushy/frustrated/selfish drivers are slightly more commonly to be encountered).
What it might also do is make life easier for motor vehicle users wanting turn left legally, who find themselves blocked by drivers using the bus lane illegally - either queuing, or steaming down their inside at a wholly inappropriate rate of knots (because, of course, if you're using the bus lane illegally then you should make sure that you spend as little time as possible in it, which means that it's quite OK to drive at excessive speed in order to do so). Depending on the sequence of the lights, blocked left-turners can then end up impeding the flow of traffic wanting to go straight on, through no fault of their own.
That's not one of the spots where I've found myself particularly wishing there was a bus lane camera (Ferniehill Drive and the foot of Liberton Brae are locations I've asked about before), but welcome nonetheless. Hopefully others are in the pipeline too.
@ejstubbs it's in exactly the right place to catch left-turning drivers who can't be bothered to wait for the left turn lane to start
Yes - but considering how close the camera is to the junction (about 1/3 of the way from the bus stop to the lights), and how short that section of bus lane is, I can't help feeling it's not really worth it - as Frenchy says (I'm paraphrasing :)). And much as I hate to say it, it feels to me like it's been placed to catch people out, rather than deter people from abusing the bus lane.
It'd be better placed on the A701 somewhere before the lights (whatever it's called then - Craigmillar Park?) IMO. I quite frequently see people driving a few hundred yards down the bus lane to get to the inside lane at the lights.
When I saw that this was a target for enforcement, I'd hoped it was the eastbound lane - eastbound I'm much more endangered by drivers moving into the bus lane to avoid the right-lane queue. Westbound, I just joined the queue of "buses", as we were all going to get through on the next phase of the lights.
Indeed, there is a risk that I'm more endangered in the new arrangement, as drivers might now left hook me in their urge to avoid the camera! Granted, I've yet to have this risk realised, but I'm watchful for it...
Robert
https://twitter.com/gavincorbett/status/1366688096981569537
Cllr Corbett noting that the council "writes off" 22% of parking fines. Over £1.6 million pounds last year.
‘Sake Prof French hope you are not trying to say the Council isn’t waging a war on the motorist?
I've started taking a note of registration numbers of cars on pavements and then checking if the car is taxed or not. Tough luck on one pavement parker yesterday as no tax or MOT (ran out Jul last year) so DLVA and police informed.
Technically it is now illegal to park on the pavement in Scotland but it's anyone's guess as to when it will be enforced if indeed ever.
No technically about it - the prohibition hasn't been activated yet. So still A-OK, if you can levitate there...
It became law in October 2019 and it's a shocking state of affairs that it still isn't enforced. The twitter post is also an obstruction offence and the police will take action (eventually) if notified.
The bill passed in to law in 2019 but AIUI that doesn't necessarily mean that it becomes law immediately. This thread http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17561 contained a fairly comprehensive discussion of the lead up to the passing of the Act, and the likely timetable for implementation or otherwise.
I suspect that there is a strong likelihood that it will go the way of the pavement parking ban as laid down in section 7 of the 1974 Road Traffic Act, which basically died for lack of interest/money and which was quietly repealed in the 1991 Road Traffic Act (not in 1979 as one poster in the above linked thread suggested).
You can read the depressing list of excuses and delaying tactics that eventually led to the repeal here:
https://pedestrianliberation.org/2011/08/07/the-sorry-tale-of-the-road-traffic-act-1974/
So we are still left with the ludicrous situation that it's illegal to drive on the footway, but temporarily abandoning your vehicle on the footway is legal. Which seems a bit like saying that it's illegal to stab someone, but not just to leave your knife sticking out of someone's back.
The Transport (Scotland) Act 2019, which provides the legislative basis for the pavement parking "ban", received Royal Assent on 15 November 2019. That does not mean all its provisions automatically entered into force on that day. On 16 November 2019 just four of the 131 Sections of the Act came into force, as required by Section 130 of the Act. The other sections only come into force "on such day as the Scottish Ministers may by regulations appoint."
Scottish Ministers have not brought Section 50, the pavement parking ban, into force. They have however brought the sections allowing local authorities to exempt streets from the ban into force.
So local authorities can currently exempt streets from the pavement parking ban, even though the ban itself doesn't exist.
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