@gembo
You are entering a world of pain.
CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 15years old!
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It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
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@gembo
You are entering a world of pain.
Thankfully, that means no offence was being committed in the pre-PoP photocall on MMW.
Reply from Gayle @edinhelp (via Direct Message on Twitter:
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Morning, Just to let your know, I have heard back from the department dealing with this - "The cycle lanes on Leith Walk is a designated area for cyclists to ride within the greater footpath area. This is the only area on the footway where cyclists are permitted to use (other than the road) however it may also be used by pedestrians.Only the cycle lane is shared." Hope that this helps. Thanks, Gayle
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Lovely. So if someone is walking in the cycle lane, and they don't move / refuse to move when you come along, you technically have to dismount, walk around them, then re-mount.
I also wonder if anyone / any organisation keeps track of "dedicated cycle lanes", and needs to be updated that the cycle lanes on Leith Walk aren't dedicated cycle lanes at all, but are shared use?
@EdinburghCycleCam
I think you are labouring unnecessarily over this.
Pedestrians can walk anywhere except motorways. So it doesn't really matter what the cycle lanes on Leith Walk are designated as. The point is, that the demarcation betwixt cycleway & footway is crap (tactiles that are barely visible, and no demarcation at some of the junctions). It should instead have been an angled kerb, which would have helped to keep the peds off.
Basically, infra should be designed so that it's intuitive for all parties to use - not the case here.
"I think you are labouring unnecessarily over this."
Oh, white possibly :)
Yeah, the reason I asked @edinhelp about this in the first place is that it's confusing - even if it does ultimately make no difference...
Pedestrians can walk anywhere except motorways.
I'm going for a walk on the bypass. My will is in the bottom drawer of the bureau.
Motorways, Bypass, WAR etc.
Alright. Alright
"I'm going for a walk on the bypass. "
Except I do believe that is illegal and there are signs indicating no pedestrians, no bicycles, no horse drawn vehicles nor animals. Take care with illegal strolling or driving of cattle on the bypass as it may invalidate your life insurance policy.
If proof were needed:
Another reason why the Leith Walk changes are as much use as a chocolate teapot.
I'll wager that sign is at a road junction and designed/placed for the benefit / information of motorists.
If I wanted to stroll along or over a motorway I doubt very much I'd join it at a slip road.
I have walked the bia-pass when motor broke year agos, I have walked worse roads. You also can not walk on airstrips, in peoples gardens natural boundary of property, On some MOD land, some industrial sites, many places, but still the best access in western world. Its gives me bad feeling in england where can barely walk anywhere.The majority of people appear to respect the cycle paths.
In the RSO's there are only 3 categories - carriageway, cycleway, footway. Cyclists are not allowed to cycle on the footway. There is no"shared space". Hence on Leith Street where the "segregated" cycle lane endeth at Greenside Road, the whole area is designated as cycleway - ie can be used by pedestrians and cyclists. This caused furore as pedestrian association assumed this meant that only cyclists could use it.
I wasn't aware of any RSOs for Leith Walk - the first that I saw were the ones for Leith Street. I'm not sure whether they are required for changing pavement use or maybe just where the carriageway space is being changed.
I can advise a 100% refusal rate so far for the Leith Walk 'cycle' lanes for morning cyclists emerging from the Picardy Place hellscape.
If you can survive Leith Street why would you play Toytown Cycle Lanes on your way to work?
I saw one person in the section leading up to Greenside this morning. I've just been assuming they're either not open or still blocked by a sign somewhere or not worth attempting to use until the tourists have died down a bit.
Jewson Timber stacking large sheets of chipboard in the cycle lane north of Macdonald Road. Totally blocked.
Nothing malicious - they just won't have realised what it was. Most people ignore it anyway.
Another van blocking the cycle lane at McDonald Road while installing an ANPR camera. Interestingly it’s just overlooking the junction so doesn’t seem to be there for enforcement.
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