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Drove Edinburgh to Newcastle and back today...

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  • Started 13 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from wee folding bike

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  1. Doing a Christmas pressie swap, my mum and brother having gone to my sister's place in Newcastle from Aberdeen by train, the run south for me being preferable to the run north. Anyway, we'd expected snow overnight, so it wasn't a surprise in the morning. I wandered up to the main road to check on it, packed the boot with a shovel and blanket and our car snow socks and a flask of tea.

    Yep, the road was bad around Berwick (especially coming back) but hey, it was passable with care. Which was the problem. Jeez there are some nuts around out there, sitting too close, wanting to overtake despite the queue in front for a good mile travelling at an easy 30mph. Coming back the police were turning people away from the Berwick bypass - they had a couple of tractors helping pull trucks up the hill. A couple of rear wheel drive cars u-turned into our lane and then slithered sideways up the hill with rear wheels spinning wildly.

    Normally 1h45m each way. We were an hour longer heading south, and it took 4 hours heading back, but at no point was I worried we were going to get stuck (especially given the snow socks in the boot). Since then parts of the A1 have been closed (including to a couple of accidents, which, given the tailgating and overtaking I'm not surprised at...).

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. wee folding bike
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    A couple of rear wheel drive cars u-turned into our lane and then slithered sideways up the hill with rear wheels spinning wildly.

    German with a three letter name?

    Old Swedish RWD manages just fine here. The only time we haven't get up a hill this year was when a FWD FIAT stopped in front of us and nobody without 4WD got moving again. I've seen plenty of FWD getting into trouble in the last few weeks and I've pushed FWD and 4WD out of the snow.

    The last time I didn't get up a hill was the road to Ben Lawyers... but I got further than the Golf did.

    I have sometimes put kids in the trunk for a little more weight on the wheels.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. The FWD cars failing looks less dramatic than a sideways RWD though... :P

    One was indeed a BMW, another a Ford Sierra. I've heard of the old 'weighting down the boot over the drive wheels' idea - looks like it could work a treat!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. wee folding bike
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    Well that's why people expect FWD to work better, the engine sits over the front wheels. VW used to have an ad showing the guy who drove the gritters going to work in a Beetle.

    My trike is obviously RWD but it will still understeer like FWD and fishtail like RWD. There is some yaw but I think it's just drifting down the camber rather than being power related. It always yaws the same way, the nearside wheel moves forward.

    Not making a great case for a trike there! On ice I much prefer it to two wheels.

    Weight balance is different from a bike, the chain stays are shorter but each rear wheel only carries half of the weight.

    Posted 13 years ago #

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