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“School pupils issue fake parking tickets to tackle pollution“

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  1. chdot
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  2. paulmilne
    Member

    Time for a 'Stop murdering our children' campaign.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

  4. neddie
    Member

    Sadly, just tinkering around the edges with token gestures without dealing with the elephant in the room. The "adults" will go back to their old habits after a couple of weeks when it will all be forgotten.

    The only solution is to ban cars near schools

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Interesting from the CHdot linkee to Stop de kindermoord the journalist who coined the phrase was initally pushing for children to be bussed to school. Other campaigners then joined and altered it to banning cars. Bobs yer Dutch uncle.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Interestingly, for a while I put fake tickets that look exactly like that (I think they're from Amazon or something, I got them as a gift) on vehicles double parked on Leith Walk (they're blank on the back, it's obvious they're fake once you pick them up), and then when a van driver got pissed off at me, screamed and shouted in my face, and then kicked and buckled my rear wheel, the police said that my placing the fake ticket on his van would be considered instigating the situation, and if I wanted to report the driver, they'd also prosecute me for "aggressive behaviour".

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. dougal
    Member

    The well-embedded notion of vehicle as "extended body" fascinates and appals me. Touching someone's car really is seen as aggressive by people. You slap a passing vehicle to let them know that they are too close and they will scream til they're sick. And any driver hitting a cyclist is just a "nudge", as if the driver was bumping shoulders with you. The vehicle itself isn't seen as a huge, unyielding piece of metal but as the person that occupies it. If you touch that piece of metal you're really assaulting that person.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    @dougal, some people seem to develop a temporary form of autism when in their cars. Such that any slight touch is perceived as an assault but they can knock you off your bike as it does not hurt them or indeed their car.

    Never touch the vehicle. For sure.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. amir
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    Should be part of the driving training along with cycling on a busy main road, and VR shock therapy

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. dougal
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    Wow, great find @amir. All that behaviour clearly on display and identifiable to make a film about it in 1950. Clearly we have made exactly no further progress; indeed nowadays drivers don't bother with parking spaces per se but make their own wherever they want to abandon the vehicle.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    We need to get extinction rebellion on to the case for motor cars being banned. Sadly the minister who is supporting XR school pupil strike today ( Interesting strategy) has only picked up half the story. Congestion is very bad for the environment so we need to build more roads, HS2 et cetera.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    “Congestion is very bad for the environment so we need to build more roads, HS2 et cetera.”

    Yep and said various other bits of nonsense (R4 Today) - keen on electric cars too.

    BUT still talking about 2050 targets.
    ya
    Also mentioned that recession would be good for carbon reduction. Wasn’t quite advocating it, but could be inevitable result of Brexit.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. sallyhinch
    Member

    Oil and gas expert on the Today programme this morning was saying that Trump's trade war with China would cut demand for oil and gas because of economic slowdowns but also because countries would invest in renewables rather than rely on importing energy in case supplies would be disrupted. So, Donald Trump, ecowarrior. Who knew?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    “would invest in renewables rather than rely on importing energy in case supplies would be disrupted”

    Yes, but also increases ‘demand’ for fracking.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    The kids were out in Glasgow today.

    Pushing through the market square so many mothers sighing

    Checking the time left, not 12 or 11 years,but five years, that's all we've got.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    “five years, that's all we've got”

    Fake news from 1972...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Thanks CHdot.

    There is an interesting clip on YouTube where Mr Bowie is being laughed at, I think by Paxman for predicting The Internet,

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. crowriver
    Member

    "The only solution is to ban cars"

    FTFY

    Posted 5 years ago #

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