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Campaign Against Long Cars (CALC) - and wide

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  1. gembo
    Member

    You are Fair Game if you step onto a Zebra Crossing in London.also merry xmas

    Posted 8 months ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. neddie
    Member

    We shouldn't simply enable rich people to have the exclusive preserve of SUVs

    We actually need to ban them outright - especially the ones with high/sharp bonnet profiles, that are more likely to throw a child under the wheels, and/or blunt trauma to the torso/head instead of the legs

    Posted 6 months ago #
  4. chdot
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  5. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Neddie: We actually need to ban them outright - especially the ones with high/sharp bonnet profiles, that are more likely to throw a child under the wheels, and/or blunt trauma to the torso/head instead of the legs.

    I'm seeing more and more Jaecoo cars around, I assume because they're cheap* Chinese imports. Every single one of their current models is an SUV, and they all have a 'battering ram' front end. They give the impression of having been deliberately designed to look aggressive. They certainly give me the willies every time I see one.

    Bull bars were banned several years ago but these designs seem to have something much worse, as you described: shockingly poor visibility of anything below the excessively high and flat bonnet, and no consideration given to the severity of outcome of an impact to anyone not encased in another steel box. I'm surprised that they manage to comply with Regulation 78/2009/EC - and if they do, then maybe the regulation needs revising (again). I can't but think that they would score poorly in the Euro NCAP ratings for vulnerable road user protection as well (though those aren't mandatory).

    * Even though the electric ones don't qualify for the government's plug-in vehicle discounts.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  6. acsimpson
    Member

    I haven't noticed many but my anecdata suggests they are also badly driven. I was aggressively overtaken by a driver using one one on Maybury road while I was driving in a line of cars all doing the sort limit. To achieve this the driver used the central reservation.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    I have seen a couple and good to have this info. THey sponsor an AUstralian Cyling team i think? Jaecoo Alula

    All SUV’s by their nature of being too big for the streets are badly driven - they take up a lane and a half, they cant get between parked cars, they are very selfish cars. I cannot understand why their owners buy them given global warming, Iran War oil prices etc.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. chdot
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  10. Greenroofer
    Member

    In that Inverness today, where the multistorey carpark has been reset to allow obese cars to fit. Essentially they have redrawn the space between each set of pillars so that whereas it used to have three spaces, it now just has two.

    I think they have also reworked the circulation routes to accommodate the reduced turning circle of these obese cars.

    It one space there was an old Volvo 740 (I think) estate. That used to be a big luxury car when I was younger. The new wider spaces dwarfed it...

    Posted 4 weeks ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    New parking measures, including charges based on vehicle size, will come into force in Bath on Tuesday.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyz567324ro

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Bath is gridlocked so tax the Long. I say.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Then the potholes, and this is the bit nobody campaigning about them wants to hear. They are not a funding problem. They are a weight problem. Double a vehicle’s weight and you multiply the damage to the surface by about sixteen: a two-tonne SUV wrecks the road sixteen times faster than a one-tonne hatchback, and a bike does essentially none.

    Scotland now carries a £2.6 billion repair backlog. If potholes are your biggest worry, taking heavy cars off the road should be your number one cause.

    With a GDP per capita higher than London, Edinburgh is a wealthy city with a deep poverty problem. A boy born in 2026 in one of its most deprived areas - from Bingham to Wester Hailes - can expect to die 12 years earlier than one born in the least deprived.

    https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/even-the-worlds-worst-cycle-lane

    (Above section ‘subscribers only’)

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    As I said elsewhere people can’t be concerned about potholes as they are driving tanks on the roads.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  15. mcairney
    Member

    I saw one of those Ineos Grenadier tactical military machines driving along my (not particularly wide, traffic calmed) street the other day. The sad thing is that it didn't stand out compared to the standard-issue Land Rover Defenders, Range Rovers, Ford pickups etc you normally see. Carflation indeed.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Bloated, slow and bulbous.

    Posted 1 week ago #

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