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Science Festival (tonight): Time for a new economic model?

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  1. unhurt
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    I'll be at this - maybe see some of you there?

    Time for a New Economic Model?

    Thursday 11 April 20:00 @ The Pleasance
    Imagine if we redesigned the economy so that it took insights from living systems. This economic model would concentrate on creating effective flows of resources and information, on regenerating the biosphere, of turning waste into food. This is the promise of a circular economy: an economic model that's restorative and regenerative by design. Discover why governments, major corporates, universities and citizen groups are all excited about a circular economy.

    I am suspicious of "major corporates" but hey.

    (Btw, web page says the lift has broken and won't be working tonight.)

    Posted 5 years ago #

  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Imagine if we redesigned the economy so that it took insights from living systems.

    Constant internecine murderous struggle to the death? Errrr....I'd look elsewhere for economic ideas.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

    “

    Chance takes his cue from the words "stimulate growth" and talks about the changing seasons of the garden.

    The President misinterprets this as optimistic political advic

    “

    Posted 5 years ago #

  4. unhurt
    Member

    @IWRATS Hmm. You are a living system - are you engaged in an internal internecine struggle to the death?

    Posted 5 years ago #

  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Yes.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  6. unhurt
    Member

    Ah.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  7. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    I went with high hopes but it was really a bit of a waste of time. Warm words about the benefits of a circular economy, and its parallels with the way Nature works, and a few examples of emerging technology and farming techniques that improve on current methods, but scarcely a word about the really hard question - how to get there from here. I was hoping for some sort of outline road map for a transition from a linear waste economy to a circular economy, but virtually nothing was said about that.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  8. chdot
    Admin

    “but scarcely a word about the really hard question - how to get there from here”

    Yeah it’s a real problem.

    As in -

    Fine to believe in Climate Change, set targets etc. but plan for more cars - as long as they are electric, so more roads etc.

    Clearly not just a UK problem, but here politicians/people are consumed by one issue/obsession that essentially is both a sideshow in itself and as a ‘plan for the future’, completely lacking.

    Doesn’t matter if ‘it’ll be fine really’ - more of the same is hardly a rational way forward.

    If it turns out to be a disaster requiring more unthought-through decisions and actions then just another ‘reason’ to avoid dealing with bigger problems.

    Seems most people aren’t really prepared to contemplate significant change. Generally it’s things that happen to other people, and other parts of the world.

    Etc.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Mr Monbiot has the answer I hear;

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00042g3/frankie-boyles-new-world-order-series-3-episode-3

    Posted 5 years ago #

  10. unhurt
    Member

    I didn't go expecting a road map in a 1 hour talk that was pitched at a general audience. And I thought that much more interesting than the corporate examples were the bits about mindset change - especially the need to aim for regenerative not merely "less bad" systems. The kernel of it all is there : its not just about developing economies finding a circular economy route to "have what we have" it's finding a future where they can leapfrog to something better.

    Maybe we should all be looking to draw up a new map, not expecting someone to give us one to follow.

    Dismantling extractive consumer capitalism that treats the planet and all other life (and quite a lot of human life) as an externality does seem a necessary prerequisite mind.

    Posted 5 years ago #

  11. unhurt
    Member

    Also 3D Ocean Farming is the single coolest thing I've heard about this year!

    Posted 5 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    “Maybe we should all be looking to draw up a new map, not expecting someone to give us one to follow.”

    New thread please.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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