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@Cycingmollie, "John Christopher's The Death of Grass *shudder*" - I remember reading that in the early 1980s. It was quite political if I recall correctly. There are similarities in the Survivors scenario. However there's also a kind of extreme "Good Life" factor in Survivors which makes their life seem almost idyllic: the whole self-sufficiency, living off the land in a commune thing.
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So, the persistent rumours of a Brexit "Party" / Tory electoral alliance are in fact correct. Faragists will stand down candidates in incumbent Tory constituencies...
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I for one Welcome Baron Farage of Valletta to the House of Lords.
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Valletta? Why Valletta? (And can you actually be ennobled after somewhere foreign?) I think I'd be quite cross if that were to happen.
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Presume the Maltese connection is this:
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Married Nigel Farage pictured hand-in-hand with female pal going into Malta hotel at 3.42am
The UKIP leader partied until the early hours with attractive travel chief Ande Soteri while his party's activists pounded the pavements back in rain-soaked Blighty
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/married-nigel-farage-pictured-hand-in-hand-3646619
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What are the chances that garage couldn't find enough cronies to fulfil his promise to have a candidate in every constituency. Or that his funders refused the money for those seats?
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didn't the candidates pay for the privilege of contesting? what happens to that money?
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I assume they hadn't actually formally submitted yet. I saw on twitter that the SNP candidate in Edinburgh South was submitting her papers yesterday, so there must still be time to do so.
I'm also pretty sure (but haven't double checked) that they'd just lose the £500, if they had already paid up. There might be a grace period where it's possible to pull out before the application period closes.
EDIT: Some will already have spent far more than £500 on leaflets, adverts etc., though.
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"what happens to that money?"
Helps to pay the creative accounting fees for Biscuits Party Ltd?
As Dubya once said:
"Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, uh..."Posted 4 years ago # -
I think I read somewhere that the 14th is the deadline. Which is why I wonder if farage (or is that garage) didn't find enough fools to stand for him.
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Wonder if this is available to leaders of all political parties??
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Earlier on Monday evening Morales tweeted a farewell after his resignation in the wake of a disputed election, saying that he would be take up the offer of asylum in Mexico but would soon “return with greater strength and energy”.“
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Can't say I'm going to lose much sleep over Brexit party candidates losing money. Think of it as a tax on being a revolting human being.
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I think I misunderstood, I was talking about election deposits. Did the candidates have to pay money to the party in order to be selected?
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@Frenchy - yes, £100 payable to the Brexit Party limited company.
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Lots of 'if's and but's', but as it currently stands Scotland is £97M a year poorer than it would have been under previous formula, and it's residents of course a penny in the pound worse off too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50385954
Argument still stands about right to (mis)manage your own destiny etc.
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it's residents of course a penny in the pound worse off too
Just as well there's still freedom of movement in the UK single market, eh? Higher IQs will be drawn inexorably to the low tax region, following economic good sense.
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"drawn inexorably to the low tax region"
I was actually in favour of the extra penny at the time (still am in the principle of it). The question over whether it's been used wisely; simply to offset some of our loss of benefit from the previous system seems a valid one?
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If we don't like the Scottish income tax system who should we vote for next month to reform it?
The system was created by the Conservative party through their Scotland Act 2016. I guess the Lib Dems probably had a hand in it too.
I don't mean the rates of tax but the choice of the bits to un-reserve and the accompanying fiscal framework that adjusts the block grant in light of actual and predicted income tax takes.
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“ who should we vote for next month to reform it?”
If only it was that simple...
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But if it's not that simple....what kind of country is this?
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I know what you mean, but there are few possibilities where voting for any party would produce a certain result for even simple things.
Binary really doesn’t work - change/no change??
Simplistic questions hide complex realities.
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Hardly anybody even knows the fiscal framework exists, let alone who's responsible for it. It's like the 'Barnett Formula' - utterly opaque and basically non-existent as an election issue in England and therefore on TV.
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The Scottish Income Tax was predicted to not quite work initially (not sure what % of tax take £97m is) - but we can't have a majority for more powers to Holyrood and then refuse to take responsibility.
(Not talking Indy, just meaning that in surveys people seem to like the idea of local powers - theme favoured by all parties in Scotland. So if we live above our means then we need controls to sort. Voters in England believe we are spending their money - local taxation 'shoots that fox'?
Think we should have VAT returns made here too. We collect a fair bit with our micro business.
Only alternative is Barnett Formula which is on way out. Remember that the UK Parliament is committed to have fewer Scottish MPs (down from 59 to 50). If the new pm was to be Jo Swinson she would be not be able to vote on EVEL areas as a Scottish MP. Mood generally is to not have a Scot as pm as they have been there / done that?Posted 4 years ago # -
I hadn't really thought about it but it's technically possible that Nick Cook will be my MP in a month's time.
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How does that make you feel?
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“technically possible that Nick Cook will be my MP in a month's time”
He might be wise to resign now then...
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Tory + Brexit alarmingly close to 50% of those polled. Of course that doesn't make seats, but to use the poshest language I can muster at the moment, we're humped.
To add to the mess the left leaning parties seem to have no desire to work together. There is nothing to counter the right.
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