Maybe does not work
I have replied that the 2025 Plan is good to go NOW - ditch the 2020 plans they are too weak and then bring the 2030 plans forward to 2025
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City Mobility Plan
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Posted 4 years ago #
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Done. This time I am a 75+ male lesbian Hottentot/Inuit member of the Exclusive Brethren.
Posted 4 years ago # -
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The high level of risk pedestrians and cyclists face is a major obstacle to encouraging more people to cycle and walk between the places they live work and visit. We need to think about how we use our road space and how we travel to keep people safer.
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CEC City Mobility Plan p5
Posted 4 years ago # -
@iwrats, the consultation looks like a game changer if we can build on it. The questions after the consultation should be no comment et cetera if you are seeking to save energy. Those who have to compile such data will presumably move errant data to the no comment sector rather than deleting your pertinent comment due to latter answers which contradict or do not compute.?
Assume largely white male atheists of aged nature will respond?
Posted 4 years ago # -
I answered the actual questions seriously. Big up bring it on don't put EV infrastructure in.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Good person
Posted 4 years ago # -
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We’ve committed to achieve a carbon neutral Edinburgh by 2030. That means we must change the way we manage and develop growth in the city for generations to come. Give us your views on our #CityPlan2030 proposals to help us achieve this: bit.ly/2S7xQph #futureedinburgh
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https://twitter.com/edinburgh_cc/status/1225814433064275976
SO
That’ s 20 years of massive increase in cycling provision and motor vehicle reduction
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Business as usual?
Posted 4 years ago # -
Thus spake Spokes. An excerpt:-
Spokes very much welcomes the overall objectives of the plan, particularly the target of net zero carbon emissions from transport by 2030 and the aim to increase trips made by healthy and sustainable travel modes. Taken together with the City Centre Transformation and City Plan 2030, this represents a major step forward in planning for a more sustainable and people-friendly City and we congratulate the Council on its publication.
Infrastructure
Spokes welcomes the completion by 2022 of currently planned segregated routes: CCWEL, Meadows-Canal, West Edinburgh Link, Bioquarter to Dalkeith Rd, Leith Walk, Meadows-George St (May 2023).
We strongly support the proposals to build cycling facilities on all arterial routes. The norm for such routes, and any other main roads, should be segregated provision.
However the plans for arterial road cycleroutes should be completed by 2022 rather than the 2025 suggested in the draft Plan, so that implementation can follow on immediately from the current cycleroute projects which are due for completion by 2022. Delaying the start of implementation until 2025 would be very disappointing.
Constructing proper facilities for cyclists at the West End junction is recognised in the Plan to be a priority. We emphasise this point, in view of the tramline-related cyclist’s death there, and the continuing tramline cyclist crashes. This junction also remains a significant barrier for cyclists travelling between south and north (in either direction).
We support the ‘to not through’ city centre proposals, provided that cyclists can continue to be able travel through the city centre.
We support the creation of goods micro-distribution hubs, particularly for the city centre where distribution by bike is an ideal option. Spokes compliments the Council strongly for its cargo bike scheme for local deliveries on Leith Walk during the tram works, and we look forward to this being used as a pilot and example for other areas of the City, particularly its centre and its local town centres.
Maintenance. The other major infrastructure issue affecting uptake of cycling is the condition of the roads - potholes!
The Mobility Plan does not make any reference to this issue. However, maintaining good road surfaces is vital for active travel and should be covered in the Plan.Posted 4 years ago # -
Posted 4 years ago #
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A page on the CEC website for the CMP has appeared: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/city-mobility-plan-1
Interestingly the implementation page says CEC will introduce a workplace parking levy by 2023.
Slightly less impressive is "Some arterial routes will be used for mass commuting by bike" by 2030.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Positive news for the Roseburn Path - there is now an 'Option B2' for tram extension which avoids the path and goes via Queensferry Street instead. The document suggests it would actually be a better and more useful route, suggesting the original routing down the Roseburn Path was just a desperate attempt to avoid taking road space. It even says it would be cheaper, as all the bridges on the original route would have to be replaced.
Posted 3 years ago # -
The full CMP: https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s31421/City%20Mobility%20Plan%20-%20Combined%20v2.pdf
Full of many interesting things!
Posted 3 years ago # -
I love the idea of up and spake Spokes.
I can imagine DdF being the eldern knight in Sir Patrick Spens*...
*edited
The Lord Provost sits in Edinburgh toun,
Drinkin the blude-reid wine
‘O whaur will A get a skeely skipper
Tae sail this new CMP o mine?’O up and spak an eldern knight,
Sat at the king’s richt knee;
‘Lesley MacInnes is the best convener
That ever sailt the sea.’Posted 3 years ago # -
@harts you have missed your Metier.
Posted 3 years ago # -
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It’s a 10-year plan to help the city achieve net-zero carbon status by 2030, reduce the inequalities built into our transport options and improve our quality of life.
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Posted 3 years ago # -
If I was a parent of young children I would sign up to this.
A lot of the people fulminating about losing their parking rights are not parents of young children.
Posted 3 years ago # -
“not parents of young children“
I’m sure some will be.
Traditional thing has been ‘oh kids, we’ll need a car’.
Exacerbated by ‘move to the suburbs’.
Maybe enough people will now want to resist/change(?)
Posted 3 years ago # -
@chdot, if our experience is anything to go by, not going to happen. Majority of parents of kids who were friends with our kids at nursery or early primary school ended up moving to suburbs before their children went to high school. That's not the same as majority of kids in the same class, just those we had something in common with or our kids got on with each other. Should be noted that all these parents already had cars in an urban context. We did not, and do not.
It's a small number who stay in the city if they have the possibility of doing the suburban thing. If their lifestyle already involves car use, then most will go to the suburbs if they can afford it.
Posted 3 years ago # -
“If our experience is anything to go by, not going to happen”
BUT that was then.
NOW is the start of the future...
(I’m not disagreeing with you!)
Posted 3 years ago # -
@chdot, but what we have seen over the past year is folk abandoning public transport for their cars, coupled with an increase in working from home, where it's an advantage to have more space, plus a garden for private outdoors recreation.
If/when people return to offices, etc. maybe some of those folk will go baclk to public transport, but many might not. Some people might choose to travel by bike or on foot. A fair number might continue to work from home for some or all of the time.
So our roads could be a lot busier than they were in recent years, and demand for suburban living could increase thereby exacerbating car dependence. Effectively the re-emergence of the "doughnut effect" first seen in the 1970s...
Posted 3 years ago # -
Don’t know if this link has actually been posted elsewhere.
https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/29320/city-mobility-plan-2021-2030-pdf
Prompted by -
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And so delighted to pick this up on behalf on my brilliant colleagues @Edinburgh_CC #CityMobilityPlan
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https://mobile.twitter.com/daisynmurphy/status/1575621262772039681
Posted 1 year ago #
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