I think a lot of our views of a national emergency is of World War II, where you can imagine joining Dad's Army or being in the canteen making cups of tea for air-raid wardens or organising Red Cross supplies, as in Victoria Wood in Housewife, 49. There would have been camararderie and meetings in local halls. This one asks for isolation from your fellow citizens, which is fairly miserable.
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i have been debating ordering garden stuff too, despite previous plans not to plan much this year...
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24 tatties for planting
The Beath High story is interesting, private adult facility in Glasgow I recall? In lock down Wowza
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“i have been debating ordering garden stuff too”
Do it.
Perhaps more necessary than ever this year.
Salad crops on your window ledges to fill the gaps on supermarket shelves...
Things are growing.
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@Rosie - we're all in together (at a safe distance apart)
Only mask wearers in city are few - mostly from Asia.@SRD - CMO Catherine Calderwood? Jason Leitch Clinical officer has been on Radio Scotland a lot last week answering questions.
South Africa - chances of good outcome not high. Most countries stats are lower than any reality but assuming that all massage figures then still useful? Rich SA people have health insurance but majority dependent on overloaded public health. In townships self isolation is impossible. Meaningless for the average South African / African / citizen of the planet.
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Going to panic buy in B&Q. Suspect I might have nothing better to do than paint the house.
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The one category of items that doesn't seem to be in short supply at the moment is fresh fruit & veg. I assume that folks aren't panic buying them because thy don't keep (though things like onions, apples and potatoes can be stored in a cool dark place for quite a while - by grandad used to keep a loft full of apples and onions over winter). Also perhaps demand is never that high anyway (this is Scotland after all...)
Good supplies of kitchen roll in Sainsbury's this morning, which was handy as we were on our last roll. We were in a similar position with loo roll on Friday: I normally buy it in packs of 4 or 9 but all I could find within a reasonable distance of home were packs of 16. Does buying one pack of 16 because there was nothing smaller count as panic buying? (We'd certainly have been panicking slightly if I hadn't been able to find any - before restoring to older tried and tested methods.)
Also noticed this morning (though not shopping for): pasta shelves largely bare, jars of pasta sauce now starting to get depleted, tinned veg very thin on the ground, paracetamol almost all gone, bread flour pretty scarce. Also very low stock/choice of peanut butter, oatcakes and crisps - go figure...
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We'd need an epidemic of the run-thins for Scotland's sphagnum moss reserve to be depleted.
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Great Britain is a single phyto-sanitary area. Several acts need to be got together quickly.
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@ejstubbs - Tesco Express this morning was out of carrots, but I can't see anyone stockpiling them.
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@baldcyclist - my suggestion was that my kids should repaint our - long - hall if they were off-ahool. i have a whole list of useful things they can learn to do - shoelace tying, hair-braiding, morse code...
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@LaidBack - certainly isolation will be far easier in the era of social media. As for Asians wearing masks - that happens at other times as well.
I hope we can call for each other's help on this thread.
I chose my entertainment badly yesterday. I read Wolf Hall, where half the characters are struck down with plague and sweating sickness, and watched A Quiet Place, where people in isolation can only protect themselves from a lethal alien force by radical avoidance.
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BBC News - Coronavirus: Isolation for over-70s 'within weeks'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51895873Now, "and younger people with certain health conditions"
Given the apparant weak position of UK Govt, and criticism it's getting for not taking stronger action, it worries me slightly that ScotGov is taking an even more nuanced (weaker?) approach, especially since it doesn't have very many ventilators (yet). I think there's only about 60 'available' high dependency bed in the country at the moment.
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If you want to settle down with a good book to get away from it all.... Don't read Samuel Pepys' diary for the year 1665 :-(
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Will people be buying more or less?
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Recreational Cycling banned in Italy and Spain?
https://www.brujulabike.com/cycling-banned-Spain-Coronavirus/I predict lots of cyclists offering to go collect shopping etc
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Reading recommendation: Connie Willis “Doomsday Book”.
I have two copies if anyone wants to borrow.
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Presumably government strategy is to hold out until then before closing school down, but is this really responsible? Still three weeks to go until the Easter break, with known infections rising exponentially.
We have taken the decision to take our kids out of school. However it is a fraught decision: not only worries about kids missing important education but also legal issues. Could we be prosecuted or does this constitute "exceptional circumstances"?
If anyone has views on this please feel free to share.
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Schools are not closed so children should still be going to school. Yet, accepted they are elsewhere.
Not an exceptional circumstance as such but doubt you would be prosecuted. Panic truancy rather than panic buying? Or not meekly accepting government's attempt to infect people now so thAt they will be recovered for later?
Children less likely to get ill but may pass on to adults?
We have been asked to prioritise staff with underlying health conditions for working from home. I am aware of one colleague who has interpreted this as Stayi At Home when it isn't. Yet.
We are all having to make judgement calls tht is for sure.
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An interesting TED talk from Bill Gates in 2015 (following Ebola) about being prepare for the next epidemic...
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Hey google - what does exponential increase look like?
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I've just emailed my boss to say I won't be going on the 6 day work trip I have planned for in two weeks time. I REALLY don't want to risk having to self isolate in a hotel room far from home!
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my employers have made it clear that all non-essential travel should be stopped (and they ought to know something about it, since they write the official guidance). which is to say that you should;dn't need to tell your employer that. your employer should be telling you not to go.
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Tomorrow we shall presumably be reviewing (F2F, in the office) our trail WFH on Friday, where I shall argue that immediate concessions should be made regarding working time/deadlines/capacity/interruption/estimates to allow widespread WFH sooner rather than later rather than sticking it out in the office until too late. Kids' things are being progressively cancelled, though some apparently due to staff availability rather than transmission risk reduction, including parent-visit events at school but not actual school. The sick kids' rang today to cancel an outpatient check-up for one child this week as they would seem to be re-configuring their staff and facilities. Anyone know if the new sick kids' out at Little France is able/likely to be used as additional infirmary space?
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@SRD we are still doing the "we're public sector so we follow govt. advice and won't do more till they say to" thing. WFH is "encouraged" but not mandated.
Is the Prime Minister planning to actually prime minister at all, I wonder? Or just keep floating the acceptability of emergency government policy via leaks to journalists? (I am FURIOUS about this. People are going to DIE. Show some leadership - you wanted the power hard enough. This is the flip side. You are responsible now.)
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I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire
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Rule 2 (but don't panic too much, it's merely 7.9 million rather than 79 million in the article link). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised
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