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  1. LaidBack
    Member

    @Baldycyclist " don't know, they are quite useful as they give us an insight into what will be happening/opening up here in 2 weeks - bets on apple/google app being annouced here soon?

    Also if we didn't see them, we wouldn't be able to mock/judge."

    A lot of truth in that. But that applies to Wales and Northern Ireland too surely? I would suggest that the very existence of the FM and her daily briefings on the BBC Scotland channel is a source of annoyance whatever she says.
    I heard a vox pop on Ch4 from Wales yesterday and they all thought England had moved on too early.
    Are the celtic nations impeding England's progress - hence the need for full devolution for that country?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    New rules for pubs, restaurants, hotels, gyms, nightclubs, etc. have been "leaked" to The Thunderer (presumably by Johnson himself or Cummings).

    Looks like bad news for buffet service...

    I shan't post the link as paywalled but other news sources are available.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    Meanwhile in Australia (which, you may recall, has had hardly any cases, certainly compared to the UK):

    Australian state reinstates restrictions after spike in coronavirus cases

    “It is unacceptable that families anywhere in our state just because they want this to be over pretend that it is. It is not over”

    https://reut.rs/2BoOQRX

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. chdot
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  5. chdot
    Admin

    Wiltshire has experienced a partial relapse but Birmingham, she says, could change for the better without cars. “You don’t need them here. This is the best city to cycle in. We have more trees than Paris and more miles of canals than Venice. If you cycle alongside, you feel safe, the air is cleaner and you might even see a kingfisher.”

    As in many cities around the world, councils are creating more cycle paths and pedestrian areas, but these are often temporary and not everyone is mobile enough to use them. The best short-term hope for sustained air-quality improvements would be for as many people as possible to continue to work from home.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/20/britain-beyond-lockdown-could-the-country-be-healthier

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. steveo
    Member

    If you cycle alongside, you feel safe, the air is cleaner and you might even see a kingfisher.”

    Well a couple of you might....

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    One metre is the new two metre any second

    Scotland probably can do this more safely now than Engerlund

    The kids raving on The Meldons as I type already cemntimetres apart, if that

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Looks like there’s gonna be a party down Gladhouse as well

    Can’t say I blame the kids

    Seems like most groups are addressed in some way in the briefings but they are totally ignored

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  9. gembo
    Member

    Yeah the kids just wanna have fun and they’ve seen dumb com drive 200 miles during lockdown

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Penicuik House estate yesterday was 'quite' busy, insofar as a prosperous out-of-town estate may be busy. But the mini car park at Tympany Lodge is still closed, so everyone had parked their cars on the verge alongside, and also for some distance on the verge going up Lowries Den Road. Lots of people out on bikes though, riding mainly in twos and threes.

    I had a long very physically distanced chat with an old guy who was photographing butterflies near the Old Gardens.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Perhaps the most benign explanation is that the after-effects of his bout of coronavirus have damaged his short-term memory – in which case he deserves some sympathy, but he should not be leading the country at the moment. Then again, taking into account Johnson’s long track record of lies, this might be the final proof, if ever it were needed, that our prime minister can’t help himself – he lies habitually, continually, compulsively.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/21/boris-johnson-lies-marcus-rashford-prime-minister

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Arellcat: the mini car park at Tympany Lodge is still closed

    That's a pity. I did have a look online the other week when I was looking for somewhere to take the missus to exercise her bad ankle that wasn't Swanston/Dreghom, Mortonhall or the Braids, and was I was disappointed to find that Penicuik House seemed to be saying that their car park was still closed "according to Scottish Government advice" or some such. This was after the Pentlands Regional Park folks had already reopened their car parks. So we went to Flotterstone instead, which isn't quite as nice as Penicuik House estate but at least we could get parked in a designated place rather than obstructing roads and damaging verges by fly-parking.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Another bourach

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fears-over-future-scots-dental-22229930

    Dr Gillian Leslie, spokeswoman for the Scottish Dental Practice Owners group, said: “NHS patients in some health board areas that are seen by their dentist from today and who need treatment involving a drill, will need to travel – with their dentist and a dental nurse – to a hub and be treated there.

    “That means dentists on islands, for example, will need to get on a ferry and travel to a hub on the mainland to treat their patient, then return the same day. Some could end up making 100-mile round trips. It is utter madness.”

    Leslie, from East Lothian, added: “Some dentists don’t drive, so will need to travel to hubs on public ­transport to treat NHS patients.

    “But if patients are willing to pay privately for their treatment, they can be treated in the dental practice. It is utterly unbelievable.”

    NHS practices will also only be supplied with enough basic PPE to treat 10 emergency patients a day for the foreseeable future, while private practices can treat as many as they want with the correct PPE.

    Leslie said: “How will it be possible to work through the backlog of patients and new problems when we only have enough PPE to treat 10 patients a day? It’s unviable from a business point of view. Practices will close.

    “It’s not just a case of getting back into the surgery and turning on the lights. We need to have health board approval and get through a mountain of paperwork before we can reopen.

    “Hundreds of us just haven’t had the time to prepare. We feel the ­Scottish ­Government is trying to push NHS dentistry out and is creating a two-tier system. I’ve spoken on the phone to dentists who are in bits.

    “Many of them are looking for other jobs because they won’t be able to survive this. The Scottish Government is encouraging dentists to offer ­treatment privately, which suggests they are happy to privatise the sector, giving patients less choice.”

    The Record recently revealed the depth of the dental disaster facing Scotland. A poll found 51 per cent of the 400 practice owners asked fear they are heading for bankruptcy.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    The chancellor, Rishi Sunak, must “seize the day” and create a national nature service to restore wildlife and habitats in England, say a coalition of the country’s biggest green groups. It said the move would create thousands of jobs, a more resilient country and tackle the wildlife and climate crises.

    The coalition has drawn up a list of 330 projects that are ready to go, including flower meadows, “tiny forests” in cities and hillside schemes to cut flooding. It said a service to fund the projects and train workers would create 10,000 jobs and be part of a green recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/22/uk-environment-groups-call-for-national-nature-service

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. Baldcyclist
    Member

    2nd wave approaching Germany? R Rate has gone up to 2.88.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-germanys-r-number-rockets-again-from-1-79-to-2-88-12012143

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Britain came close to effective insolvency at the onset of the coronavirus crisis as financial markets plunged into turmoil, the governor of the Bank of England has said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/britain-nearly-went-bust-in-march-says-bank-of-england

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I think it would be the financial markets that became insolvent, not the UK of GB&NI which can create Sterling ab initio at will.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. minus six
    Member

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  19. chdot
    Admin

    Pupils in the Capital are set to return a week earlier than planned and will finish on 25 June 2021.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/education/edinburgh-schools-council-update-parents-when-pupils-will-return-class-2892115

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Same in Fife, and I think W. Lothian too, seems the various councils have taken the FM's school reutrn date as 'at' and not 'from'.
    Don't know if they have been instructed to all start at same time?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. acsimpson
    Member

    @chdot, that article seems to contain more contradictions than facts. Even missing the point that attendance of 1.3 days a week is less than 33%.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. Baldcyclist
    Member

    PM on his feet, 4th July is England's 'Independance day'.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-53146191

    Pubs, hotels, restaurants, hardressers open.

    Schools open in September.... All pupils.

    2m is now 1m

    Guidance now, not legislation.

    Local lockdowns if flare up's

    Starmer has said Labaour will support.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    “Starmer has said Labaour will support.“

    That’s politics.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. LaidBack
    Member

    4th July is England's 'Independence day'.

    BJ was born in the USA so all very appropriate! Sure Fox will like that little tribute to the 'special relationship'.

    Lunchtime announcement good too as overlapped with FM daily briefing.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "Even missing the point that attendance of 1.3 days a week is less than 33%."

    Don't know if the Chipwrapper has changed it, but the article doesn't say that now. Says "Previous plans would see just 33 per cent of a school’s roll attend school on any one day." which is true.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    Schools closed friday for cleaning

    So 33% of 4 days = 1.33333333333

    BUT despite being Correct for the 2 metre measuement This was the wrong answer

    Schools were due back 18th aug in 2020 in Edinburgh

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  27. Morningsider
    Member

    Glenn Campbell (BBC News) on twitter:

    Breaking: @johnswinney expected to announce preparations to reopen schools 100% without social distancing from 11 August IF virus suppression continues

    Not guaranteed. Blended learning to remain as contingency

    Via @BBCScotlandNews political editor, Brian Taylor

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Yes he will go 50% in school in August moving to full as soon as safe I think?

    His boss is sticking to 2 metres until 02.07.20

    By which time school staff will be off until 10.08.20 kids back after that

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  29. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    kids back 12.08.20 so officially 2 days (which in EDI were due to be school hols for all) to redo the 2m spacing (which has already been worked on for weeks) to whatever non-English number wee Nic decides?

    Not to mention the timetable implications

    Farce much?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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